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To: El Gato

El Gato~:” There was a second “mistaken identity case”.

In the first case (shots fired at Newspaper ladies) there is abosolutely “no legal defense”.
I counted 38 hits on their truck from newspaper photos.
Deadly physical force (discharge of firearm) can be
used only in RESPONSE to deadly physical force.
What prompted police to fire at them ?
Different make, model, and color of truck of the suspect’s truck
Did the victims display firearms ~ no !
They were shot from BEHIND the truck , through the truck box and back window, into the truck cab (!)
Police admit there was No warning issued (!)
The only discharge of firearms were the police, which prompted other to fire also (herd mentality) (!)
One victim shot in the back ; the other victim had shattered glass shards injury.
This shooting is a legal nightmare for the police.

In the second case , the male victim was no way , even remotely , come close to the physical description of the perp.
Adrenaline pumping, or not , is no excuse for a ‘trained police officer’ ramming the victims truck.

All the police officers involved need to go through re-training for deadly physical force,
the use of physical force , but also ,
they need more time on the target practice range (!)
Thank goodness that I am not inside their jurisdiction .


36 posted on 02/09/2013 11:33:52 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (When deadly force is seconds away ,... police are only 8 minutes away)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

You mentioned “herd mentality”
I have come to the conclusion that most humans are pack animals.

For all of our talk of Freedom, it is the empirical truth.


41 posted on 02/09/2013 11:37:39 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
All the police officers involved need to go through re-training for deadly physical force,

They all need to be fired. The worst offenders need to go to jail.

I would, you would, they should. Since they wouldn't be safe in California prisons, I'll be we have a few spare cells in Huntsville Texas.

47 posted on 02/09/2013 11:42:31 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
All the police officers involved need to go through re-training for deadly physical force

Just re-training and more range time? Not charged and tried for attempted murder?

How are their actions any different than Dorner's?

49 posted on 02/09/2013 11:44:09 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

No, they do not need “more training.”

They need to be in prison.

And since they were ready to kill innocent people, depriving them of their civil liberties without cause, I think that the cops should be tossed into a super-max prison without a trial (speedy or otherwise), the population clearly told that their new residents were LAPD, and then we should allow the LAPD officers to find out what happens when they’re just another gang on the street.

Because that’s all the consideration they were going to give these women, the man, the residents of Big Bear, etc.


74 posted on 02/10/2013 12:05:25 AM PST by NVDave
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