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Details emerge in LAPD's mistaken shooting of newspaper carriers
Los Angeles Times ^ | February 8, 2013 | Joel Rubin, Angel Jennings and Andrew Blankstein

Posted on 02/09/2013 10:52:48 PM PST by El Gato

The women were victims of 'a tragic misinterpretation' by officers working under 'incredible tension,' LAPD Chief Charlie Beck says.

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at least seven officers opened fire. On Friday, the street was pockmarked with bullet holes in cars, trees, garage doors and roofs

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; lapd; lapdoutofcontrol; lapdshootingmistake; lefshootingmistake
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To: El Gato

There must be a spif for a cop to shoot his gun. So, if not dogs around shoot at a car that looks like a car-—— that looks like a car a cop killer is driving. Then find another excuse to go Dirty Harry.


61 posted on 02/09/2013 11:50:53 PM PST by Terry Mross (Who long before America is no more?)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

For the record, the dumbass chicken shits did not KILL anyone with malice of forethought or even in pissing their pants fear.

Dornan is a cold blooded killer.

There is a difference.
Capice?


62 posted on 02/09/2013 11:52:56 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: trailboss800
I only copied the headline, I didn't write it. :)

It was written by the same folks who call "magazines" "clips, and any black rifle an "assault weapon". Wonder what they'd think of my last CHL instructor's "purple" AR, Semiauto shotgun and Glock? She does right well with 'em at three gun matches, and teaches a pot full of women how to shoot, (over and above the CHL classes)

63 posted on 02/09/2013 11:53:07 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: mylife
They, unlike Dornan did not set out to kill or maim with malice of forethought, but that does not absolve them of their actions.

They waited until the truck passed by, then opened fire from behind without any warning whatsoever.

This sounds like attempted murder to me and it seems to me like you're making every attempt to absolve them of their actions instead of applying the very same standard to them that you are to Dorner.

Or, are you saying that cops don't kill cop-killers with malice aforethought?

64 posted on 02/09/2013 11:54:51 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Ron H.

When Revere rode, he rode to warn the colonials that the Brits were marching on Concord and Lexington to confiscate their guns at the armorys.


65 posted on 02/09/2013 11:56:04 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: tumblindice
We would like to point out that no dogs were harmed...

But that tree is daid, daid, daid.

66 posted on 02/09/2013 11:58:06 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: El Gato

67 posted on 02/09/2013 11:58:29 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

I am not absolving them.
I was simply delineating between what they did and what Dornan has done and swore to continue to do.


68 posted on 02/09/2013 11:59:20 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

The cops that fired on the newspaper’s delivery truck failed to follow some commonsense procedures, like keeping their distance and calling for backup and get a dozen cars to surround this truck.


69 posted on 02/10/2013 12:00:37 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: gfbtbb

This is really a sad state of affairs! Cops shoot wrong drivers in wrong color Pickup, wrong gender??? They’re under stress. Well I’m sorry for them! Give them their baby bottle and send them to bed!!!


70 posted on 02/10/2013 12:01:12 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: mylife
For the record, the dumbass chicken shits did not KILL anyone with malice of forethought or even in pissing their pants fear.

I never said they KILLED anyone. Capice?

There is a difference.
Capice?

Is attempted murder a crime in your state? Because it is in California.

These dumbass chicken shits, or goons, as I like to call them, were shooting into the back of the truck to kill the occupant, whom they thought was Dorner.

Or, are you saying all seven cops were merely firing warning shots?

71 posted on 02/10/2013 12:03:42 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker; mylife
They waited until the truck had passed, then opened fire from behind, without warning.

That is the very definition of disobeying the 6th commandment: "Thou shalt DO NO MURDER FROM A HIDDEN PLACE".

An AMBUSH is the definitive "hidden place", and these cops WAITED until the ladies' truck had PASSED, then opened fire.

That defines malice AFORETHOUGHT, btw.

72 posted on 02/10/2013 12:03:56 AM PST by Don W (There is no gun problem, there is a lack of humanity problem!)
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To: El Gato

As long as the cops are out there no dog or paperboy is safe.


73 posted on 02/10/2013 12:05:17 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

No, they do not need “more training.”

They need to be in prison.

And since they were ready to kill innocent people, depriving them of their civil liberties without cause, I think that the cops should be tossed into a super-max prison without a trial (speedy or otherwise), the population clearly told that their new residents were LAPD, and then we should allow the LAPD officers to find out what happens when they’re just another gang on the street.

Because that’s all the consideration they were going to give these women, the man, the residents of Big Bear, etc.


74 posted on 02/10/2013 12:05:25 AM PST by NVDave
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

So the cops SAW the front AND side of the vehicle and did not see TWO bodies in it? I’ll buy (not really) they could have ‘misidentified’ “A” driver in the right color/make model truck...but how does someone supposedly paying attention miss all that and two people of the wrong size, color and gender?

Even if the windows were tinted? you see shapes.
Someone needs to explain that in legal courtroom detail.


75 posted on 02/10/2013 12:05:25 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: El Gato

As long as the cops are out there no dog or paperboy is safe.


76 posted on 02/10/2013 12:07:22 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: mylife
I was simply delineating between what they did and what Dornan has done and swore to continue to do.

The actual actions taken by both Dorner and these seven cops are identical and the only difference is the final outcome.

In both cases, Dorner and these seven cops opened fire without warning with the intention of killing the occupants of the vehicles.

The only difference is that Dorner succeeded with his intentions and these cops failed. Thus, Dorner is a cold-blooded murderer and these cops are cold-blooded attempted-murderers.

77 posted on 02/10/2013 12:10:22 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

I am saying these cops are unprofessional jack asses and should be relieved, and I am saying the Sheriff should be relieved as well.

They have to be held accountable.
They should get jail time if a cogent case of events and forethought can be proven.

At minimum they should be relieved and held liable in civil court.

That said, you seem to have a hard on for the cops over Dornan, who is an avowed active murderer and has pledged to continue to murder.


78 posted on 02/10/2013 12:12:16 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“So the cops SAW the front AND side of the vehicle and did not see TWO bodies in it?”

Per the article one of the occupants was in the back seat handing the papers up to the driver. So I will conceded that they may indeed have only seen the driver. But that is ALL I will give them. They still could not possibly have seen enough to warrant their actions.

No verbal commands?

No identifying the occupant before going postal on them?

The wrong freakin make and color of truck????

Didn’t notice the newspapers being tossed out each time the truck slowed down? (They MUST have been watching the driver with great interest...or they should have been).

Also per the article: they shot the crap out of the whole neighborhood. There are bullet holes in houses. A few other cars were shot up - some to the point of being unusable due to tire damage or punctured radiators, etc.

Sounds like a bunch of idiots to me.

Maybe with such crappy judgement it is a good thing they can’t aim worth a damn.

It is a lucky thing that no one else was injured.


79 posted on 02/10/2013 12:17:45 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

I think you are so close to vigilante mentality you can taste it.

Think about that brother.

You have these guys already hung and buried.
Don’t take that as a personal affront to you.
I am just saying lets get the facts.

BTW, I am guilty of verbally shooting from the hip.
The killers name is Dorner.

Please don’t shoot for that! LOL

Anyhow, take a deep breath and walk away from the frenzy.


80 posted on 02/10/2013 12:19:29 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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