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To: RaceBannon; LucyT; kabar; Ax; MestaMachine

What loyalties do Brennan and Obama really have individually and what loyalties do they share?

Obama, IMO, has transparently pretended to be Christian but was raised as a Marxist secular humanist with empathy for the “oppression” of Muslim by “colonialist” white Christians and Jews, especially in Israel.

Brennan appears to have converted to being some sort of Muslim. But to what extent was he just pragmatically lubricating his access to all of the “holy sites” and insinuating himself into Saudi society at the highest levels in furtherance of his CIA objectives much in the same way that by being nominally Christian Obama has done the same thing in US society?

Together Obama and Brennan have blasted thousands of Jihadi Al Qaeda, and these folks are the sworn enemies of the Saudi royal family, a family that has reportedly nurtured Brennan’s conversion and also reportedly funded Obama’s Law School education.

Guandolo is claiming that Brennan was “flipped” by the Saudis based not just on his conversion but on his suppression of effective education of DHS and DOD on the parts of the Koran that Al Qaeda claims to justify killing all Americans...parts of the Koran that the Saudis are spending billions around the world promoting in their Mosques even as they themselves fight off Al Qaeda.

This month the Obama/Brennan cabal will attempt to beat Israel into submission on surrendering crucial strategic real estate (1967 borders) to the Palestinians in a way that closely matches the Saudi step-by-step plan for eventual re-absorption of Israel back into the caliphate.

I regard both Obama and Brennan as sock-puppets for the Marxist Chicago gang but with secular Muslim sympathies. Obama’s Palestinian pals were of the PA secular socialist type, not the more orthodox Hamas/MB type. Yet MB infiltration into the US Gov’t is undeniable.

IMO, Obama and Brennan ultimately want a Soros-style crony Marxist world order that accommodates some traditional Muslim sensibilities like kicking the Israelis out of most of Jerusalem, but not a world orthodox Muslim caliphate as the Saudis and Al Qaeda separately imagine.

Obama’s homosexual agenda-pushing crusade and placing women in combat roles and abortion policy cannot be reconciled with any sort of Islam (or any traditional religion). To the extent that Brennan can support this liberal Democrat social agenda and still be any kind of alleged orthodox Muslim is a mystery to me.


183 posted on 02/10/2013 8:01:57 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp
Obama, IMO, has transparently pretended to be Christian but was raised as a Marxist secular humanist with empathy for the “oppression” of Muslim by “colonialist” white Christians and Jews, especially in Israel. (Emphasis supplied)

I don't think you can sustain the identification of Marxism with secular humanism, since Marxism is a rigid ideology of romantic utopian affinities whose adherents have regularly murdered people into the millions in order to build their utopia. We might add that all utopias are necessarily dystopian, ever since Thomas More mentioned by-the-by that dissent wasn't tolerated in Utopia and that people would be executed to enforce the public political peace and defend the ideology of Utopia; this is hardly humanism.

It would be better to say that Marxists are monomanaically epiphenomenal materialists who don't mind snuffing out other people's phenomena. If they allowed people to think (rather than just theorize) they might be scientific materialists; but they don't, so the science part is only a claim, made for the cachet -- and to support the further claim that "science is on our side" and "truth has a bias to the Left" (< / off Colbert >).

I think Obama triangulates (or quadrilateralizes, or trapezoidizes, or hexagonizes) among varieties of anti-Americanism. It's true he's a "red-diaper" baby and that he was coddled by Communists from birth to manhood (of a sort). It's true likewise that he has attached himself to the most vigorous cause people in the world right now, Moslems who (like Communists) view America as the Main Enemy opposing their rehomogenization of the Hijaz and driving all the Jews into the sea, or into large open pits for casual cremation.

It may be that, like Susan Sontag, who once used her reputation as an intellectual to strike a pose for the benefit of Communist recruiters in the black community, that "the Caucasian race is the cancer of the planet", Obama's Islamism is operational and not truly felt or believed in.

Either way, pretending to be both helps him pretend to be neither, as the man who calls him a Communist contradicts implicitly anyone who calls him a Moslem, and both are contradicted by Reverend Wright and his "down-low" club.

Under any rubric you like, the misdirective deception protects him from his just critics.

190 posted on 02/10/2013 11:52:24 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Seizethecarp

Women make up nearly 40% pf Iran’s basij. There are squads of women terrorists. I have dvds full of women training for jihad.
It is only black, white, and Asian babies who are aborted. muslims reproduce like cockroaches.
obama’s policies are definitely consistent with islam. ALSO, homosexuality in islam is so rampant they don’t even have a word for it in the arab language. It’s the ones who dress like women, wear makeup, and flaunt it they don’t like. So all the reasons you gave just don’t take away from obama being a muslim. In fact, they enhance it. .


193 posted on 02/10/2013 12:13:06 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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