[doorgunner69]

That would be great, then we can post that pic that shows the 30mm to be about the same size as a VW Bug.

[massatoosits]

Once, about a year back, I sat inside a B-17 and listened to the pouring rain outside hammering on the thin skin of the airframe...I began to feel a profound sadness knowing that young aircrews had only that soda can skin between them and 30mm German cannon fire...