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Helicopters Search Big Bear For Ex-Cop Triple-Murder Suspect
Village News ^ | 8 February 2013

Posted on 02/08/2013 4:35:24 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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To: Boogieman
They’d have seen the motorcycle tracks, and if that were the case, they wouldn’t be talking about searching all the places he could have reached on foot. They said they found his tracks, so they must have been foot tracks if they are focusing the search like that.

He unloads the bike a couple of miles walking distance from where he sets fire to the the truck. Cops confused.

41 posted on 02/08/2013 6:35:57 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Resolute Conservative
One of the helo snipers was shot and killed the other made a phenomenal shot from the helo to hit the perp.

I'd bet that any successful kill from a helicopter, has some luck involved. I'm not 100% certain, but in the case you site, I believe he was killed by a bust of full auto.
42 posted on 02/08/2013 6:37:29 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: stansblugrassgrl

The girl killed was the daughter of one of his enemies on the police force. At least I thought she was.


43 posted on 02/08/2013 6:39:16 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You would think a manhunt for a cop killer would be garnering a little more attention, especially after the newspaper delivery folks were shot up..


44 posted on 02/08/2013 6:41:27 AM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I suppose anything is possible. I don’t think he is as prepared as his manifesto purports though. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have been trying unsuccessfully to steal a boat, and still driving his own vehicle that he knew the police were looking for. I’m also pretty certain that his claim to have MANPADs was just blowing to smoke to try to dissuade them from tracking him with choppers. So I figure he is just winging it at this point.


45 posted on 02/08/2013 6:43:02 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: cardinal4

Is it just me, or does the perp resemble a bulked-up LL Cool J of “NCIS LA?”


46 posted on 02/08/2013 6:47:28 AM PST by Ax
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To: Boogieman
I suppose anything is possible. I don’t think he is as prepared as his manifesto purports though. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have been trying unsuccessfully to steal a boat, and still driving his own vehicle that he knew the police were looking for. I’m also pretty certain that his claim to have MANPADs was just blowing to smoke to try to dissuade them from tracking him with choppers. So I figure he is just winging it at this point.

That could very well be the case, it certainly looks that way as of now. However, I found this quote from his manifesto interesting:

The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!! I will not accept any type of currency/goods in exchange for the attacks to stop, nor do i want it. I want my name back, period. There is no negotiation.

It seems he really does intend to continue to carry out attacks.

Also, just heard on the Big Bear scanner, that several people living in the area have reported hearing two shots fired.
47 posted on 02/08/2013 6:55:33 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: ZX12R

Shots may have been at Big Bear Asian ladies delivering papers...


48 posted on 02/08/2013 7:25:40 AM PST by yadent
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To: Ax

Yes he does. I was trying to think of who reminded me off..


49 posted on 02/08/2013 7:46:46 AM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: yadent
Shots may have been at Big Bear Asian ladies delivering papers...

Or dogs...

50 posted on 02/08/2013 7:53:14 AM PST by abb
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To: deks

Unless I’m mistake there is only one road out of Big Bear. If he wants to hike out of that area — good luck especially this time of year.


51 posted on 02/08/2013 7:56:17 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

He will take refuge in the San Joachin Delta where there is over 1500 miles of inland waterways and hidden sloughs.


52 posted on 02/08/2013 8:20:34 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: sodpoodle
"He probably carried a motor-cycle in the truck and rode off...."

Uhhh, probably not.

There was snow on the ground where the truck was found. Now I am no expert tracker, but could possibly discern the difference between the tracks of a motorcycle and the tracks of a man (which were found leading from the truck).

53 posted on 02/08/2013 9:42:30 AM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: OKSooner; wastedyears
"No, they just use spellcheck."

Well played, Sir. It seems your years in school were NOT wasted.

54 posted on 02/08/2013 9:49:12 AM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: diogenes ghost

Many would disagree, but - muy gracias, tu eres muy generoso.


55 posted on 02/08/2013 10:48:53 AM PST by OKSooner ("Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No!!")
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To: diogenes ghost; Boogieman

Stashed the bike within walking distance - before he torched the truck...or...rode the bike over the truck tracks.

This guy is calculating - preplanned his whole vendetta down to the smallest detail. Definitely watching the TV reports of law enforcement wandering all over the mountain looking for him on foot and having a good chuckle.

JMHO


56 posted on 02/08/2013 2:24:45 PM PST by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Just an observation: Dorner supposedly burned his truck? That doesn’t make sense.

He’s a deeply trained sniper who’d know better than to attract attention to himself with a flaming truck.

Just my humble opinion, I think he has an accomplice who burned the truck to accomplish two things:

1. Throw the cops off the scent and have them searching Big Bear when Dorner is really somewhere else.

2. Cover the forensic traces that would show the cops that someone other than Dorner was driving the truck. Thus reinforcing point 1.

See, I wondered why someone would burn their own truck and then I thought of the fact that car thieves burn cars to cover their forensic traces.

2+2=X (solve for X)


57 posted on 02/08/2013 3:48:18 PM PST by MeganC (Liberals fool people by walking upright.)
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To: sodpoodle

Yeah, he could have stashed a vehicle. I do think he probably planned for some contingency situations, but I read his manifesto, and the main impression I got was one of overconfidence, hubris, and bravado.

He may just have been laying it on very thick to psychologically intimidate the police, which is a good force multiplying strategy for him. Still, I get the feeling he is quite a narcissist and maybe he has bought into his own bull manure, thinking he could pull off more than he is capable of.


58 posted on 02/08/2013 4:42:50 PM PST by Boogieman
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