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The Root Cause of Gun Violence
American Spectator ^ | 2.6.13 | Peter Ferrara

Posted on 02/07/2013 11:06:10 PM PST by neverdem

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To: NOVACPA
"The problem is that the map on the left is an old election map."

Unfortunate. I suspect that the meme presented is probably close to the truth. Perhaps this will inspire someone (John Lott?) to gather the statistics for a similar map. The info is certainly available from DOJ on-line.

21 posted on 02/08/2013 7:01:23 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Compeletly agree.

Despite the map being an old election map, I suspect it’s very close to the truth.


22 posted on 02/08/2013 7:09:33 AM PST by NOVACPA
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To: Wonder Warthog

Completely agree.

Despite the map being an old election map, I suspect it’s very close to the truth.


23 posted on 02/08/2013 7:09:50 AM PST by NOVACPA
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To: TigersEye

Guillotines from orbit; it’s the only way to be sure.


24 posted on 02/08/2013 7:41:33 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: re_nortex

Nice graphic, but worthless without sources and, as another posted said, methodology used for the “gun violence” map. It matches a bit too closely with the electoral map. Not saying it isn’t accurate, but without sourcing, it isn’t of much use.


25 posted on 02/08/2013 7:48:05 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Yosemitest

Here’s a couple of other ones from the only source of true wisdom:
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” Jer. 17:9. “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.” Proverbs 9:10 Funny how our Founders knew all of this stuff. I wonder... were they wiser than our generation? Is it any wonder we are where we are at as a nation - that lawlessness abounds? How can it be anything other that what it is? We hate God and His righteous character. We’ll try anything, and I do mean anything, except His solutions. “Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest . Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Matt. 11:28-30 Spoken by the “Man of Sorrows” himself. His arms are still extended towards you America but your time is running out.


26 posted on 02/08/2013 8:27:49 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: Lake Living
Thank you.
Our founding fathers lived, studying the Bible.
Take a look at The Founding Fathers on Jesus, Christianity and the Bible and David Barton and the "WallBuilders".
I think you'll really like them.

For dressing up your comments, I recommend It'll help us old FReepers read your post. My eyes ain't what they use to be.

27 posted on 02/08/2013 9:32:47 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Sicon; SJSAMPLE; Wonder Warthog; onyx; FreedomPoster; Carry_Okie; Pontiac; MrB
Nice graphic, but worthless without sources and, as another posted said, methodology used for the “gun violence” map. It matches a bit too closely with the electoral map. Not saying it isn’t accurate, but without sourcing, it isn’t of much use.

Here's where the gun violence graphic first came to my attention. It was an eye-catching image posted by longtime and highly-trusted FReeper onyx in FReepathon thread XIV. The full URL to the image she posted is:

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/23367_325623620891606_448023651_n.png

I have been unable, thus far, to find any further information about its origin and the underlying statistics (aside from the FBI citation) upon which the maps were based.

That said, the graphic certainly does pass the "smell test". Those regions that vote Democrat are typically low in weapon ownership due to draconian gun restrictions. Consequently, it is logical that the rates of gun-related violence would index higher since good citizens have little means to protect themselves against outlaws and thugs. Conversely, states such as Oklahoma where not a single county went for Obama in either 2008 or 2012 have high rates of lawful gun ownership and, of course, it follows that violence due to guns is very low. And since I'm here in Texas, I can attest, based on admittedly anecdotal evidence, that gun violence is nearly always restricted to the liberal areas, such as the heavily-Mexican, heavily-Democrat Rio Grande Valley. By way of contrast, the predominately Christian and Conservative city of Plano, Texas has a very high rate of gun ownership. Resultantly, it's the safest city in America.

Yes, it would be optimal to get the raw data behind the map (shown below as a courtesy to all to reexamine) but based upon all that I have seen and applying dispassionate logic, it does reflect reality in my opinion.


28 posted on 02/08/2013 9:52:43 AM PST by re_nortex
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To: NOVACPA

Too bad.
I’d love for it to be true.
Shouldn’t be hard to find a 2012 electoral map.


29 posted on 02/08/2013 10:54:52 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: MHGinTN

LOL I’m liking that idea. Might make a good video game even.


30 posted on 02/08/2013 1:36:09 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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