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To: entropy12

Yes, to continue our ‘progressive’ domestic policies we must shift our military operations to client states, like every ‘progressive’ country does.
Just as the Romans paid for ‘bread and circus’ by contracting with the barbarians for miltayr operations.
They get the benefits and share with us- until we weaken enough that they don’t have to.

Borrowing from China to defend their oil is baffling. But more accurately we ae defending their oil so we can borrow from them to provide welfare. I saw today that China doesn’t even have a strategic reserve of oil. They are very sure of our intentions apparently, at least until they use their profits from us to build their own fleet.


14 posted on 02/07/2013 11:10:59 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith

Rome: far-flung empire, bread and circuses for the masses, and tax farming. To me, this sounds exactly like what we’re doing.


16 posted on 02/07/2013 11:15:28 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: mrsmith
Borrowing from China to defend their oil is baffling. But more accurately we ae defending their oil so we can borrow from them to provide welfare. I saw today that China doesn’t even have a strategic reserve of oil. They are very sure of our intentions apparently, at least until they use their profits from us to build their own fleet.

Follow the money. The power behind the throne in China as well as all other countries is the banker to the throne.

Take a look at the Opium Wars. International banking's roots run deep in China.

In effect, the financial ruling elites of China, Russia and the U.S. are subsidiaries of European international banking interests; that's what the new world order is.

When governments borrow, they become the servants of their financial masters. They will pass laws, effect "bailouts" and even start or stop wars according to their masters' suggestions - even if sometimes they don't realize the full effect of what they're doing. Of course, unwilling politicians can be replaced in countries where there are elections, and "friendly" politicians can be backed and find their way into office.

Issuance of U.S. Treasury debt requires the assistance of the major banks, so the major banks can not be allowed to fail. If the major banks fail, the Treasury could not sell $1 trillion of debt per year. The Treasury could, however, simply create money without borrowing, and that is the most deadly secret that international bankers require that none of their media outlets utter, unless they are branding it as lunacy. It's not lunacy, though, because instead of having both money created out of thin air and having government debt, the U.S. would only have created money out of thin air. There would be no government debt.

Major banks are international - they buy and sell government-issued debt instruments. That is how Chinese interests have purchased so much U.S. government debt - the international banks have operations in China. The international banks are required for China to export manufactured goods. Bankers are just bankers, they don't order governments to do things - they just make offers and offer advice when "situations arise".

Whichever Chinese billionaires partner with international banking become its "subsidiaries" or "agents" in China, and they receive the full backing of the global syndicate. These Chinese billionaires then are tasked with keeping their government in line with globalist interests and thereby functioning as its vassal.
24 posted on 02/07/2013 11:58:33 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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