Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

How Guns Are Like Nukes (The Last Sentence Says It All)
Townhall.com ^ | February 5, 2013 | Mona Charen

Posted on 02/05/2013 5:56:38 AM PST by Kaslin

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-47 next last

1 posted on 02/05/2013 5:56:43 AM PST by Kaslin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

I once saw Jerry Falwell debate some British anti nuke activist, at some English University, I think it was Oxford, in the 1980’s during the cold war. He concluded with the following:

Ther is an empire that has thousands of nuclear weapons, and yet, nobody stays awake night worrying about that empire starting a nuclear war.” at that point the crowd was yelling and protesting that Falwell must be crazy.

He continued, “I didn’t say which empire. I meant the British Empire.”


2 posted on 02/05/2013 6:08:11 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
This may be the most disagreeable thing Mona Charen has ever written. I am astonished she could be so naive:

I favor reasonable restrictions on the Second Amendment, such as bans on fully automatic weapons, background checks for purchases and forbidding the sale of guns to those with histories of mental illness

So Mona, what government bureaucrat will decide "reasonable?" And do you trust government bureaucrats to monitor "backgrounds" properly? As we know, there are never any mistakes made by government bureaucrats. Oh, you don't suppose there will be delays in "authorizations" for conservatives while their "backgrounds" are "checked" do you? And will everyone who ever took ritalin be forbidden under your "mental illness" rule?

Mona wake up. You're better than this.

3 posted on 02/05/2013 6:09:11 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

IOW, Mona favors elimination of Second Amendment rights via incrementalism, the favored tactic when the direct approach doesn’t work.


4 posted on 02/05/2013 6:11:24 AM PST by izzatzo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
Why did it have to be.... guns

Basically, you shouldn't and can't trust anyone that doesn't trust you with the lethal means to defend yourself.

5 posted on 02/05/2013 6:11:39 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

> .. having a gun in the home makes it much more likely that the homeowner will be shot by a family member .. <

That lie keeps being repeated over and over despite the facts, and is treated as a fact by the left/gun-grabbers.

..

There is a study on violence that was recently released that has not gotten much attention despite the recent gun ban debates.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4557


6 posted on 02/05/2013 6:12:49 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

I don’t own a gun...yet, but I may some day...don’t know. However, I am against the gov’t saying I can’t have one. It seems to me that any gun ban, be it on automatic rifles or clip size, is going to have the same result that Prohibition had...the bad guys still had all they wanted. Pile on top of that a new cadre of Federal employees to enforce the law and you get Big Brother times two. Gun control is just a bad idea on a Constitutional level, let alone the argument that it would actually work.


7 posted on 02/05/2013 6:12:53 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

A gun is for protection. The Constitution says nothing about hunting; hunting is an ancillary use for a gun.
The Constitution is supposed to guarantee the right to possess and use and arms needed to confront a militia or military force being used to support a tyrannical government. It is not limited to small arms, but guarantees arms equivalent or better than those expected to be used by the tyranical force imposing its will.

Anyone who tells you that the police will protect you is an idiot who probably does not own a gun or a fire extinguisher. I own a fire extinguisher, because if I have a fire in my home, it will take too long for government or volunteer fire fighters to get there to prevent a major damage. Owning a fire extinguisher to put out a small fire is identical to owning a gun to confront an intruder. You can’t wait for a cop anymore than you can wait for a fireman.


8 posted on 02/05/2013 6:18:54 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: izzatzo

This is something that we must address head on.

She doesn’t favor incremental elimination of the 2nd amendment, she favors outright immediate elimination but knows that that approach won’t work. And if their end goal were exposed and known by all, the incremental approach wouldn’t work either.

And here we are, arguing about what we’ll allow them to ban in THIS increment.

I say NO! Nothing! You’re restricting NOTHING! In fact, we’re going to fight to roll back some restrictions you’ve already put in place.


9 posted on 02/05/2013 6:19:09 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

bkmk


10 posted on 02/05/2013 6:19:33 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

I have always loved the work of Mona Charen. However, I wish she’d chosen to sit this one out!


11 posted on 02/05/2013 6:25:02 AM PST by Clintons-B-Gone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: C. Edmund Wright
Are you okay with that those with a history of mental illness should be able to purchase guns?

If so, then we might as well shrug our shoulders if something like Aurora, the Newtown shooting, etc happens again. Perhaps you think the victims shouldn't have been there.

12 posted on 02/05/2013 6:28:44 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: econjack

I just got a revolver a few months ago. I’m hoping I never need it, but, I’d rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

Until recently, I didn’t think I would need it, although I thought that someday the fabric of society would disintigrate to the point that I might need one. That’s happening now. Violent crime seems to be on the rise in my community, and getting ever closer to our seemingly safe suburban neighborhood. The police are not stopping it, and probably cannot, at least with the current crop of politicians giving them their marching orders.

I took the NRA training, and practice at the range from time to time. I clean it and maintain it, and keep it locked up, but handy.

I’ve had my office garage broken into three times, and I’ve had to escape from would be muggers in downtown. I’m not eager to shoot anyone, but I’m even less eager to be a victim.

We are fortunate that our Constitution affirms our right to bear arms, but less fortunate that some do not trust us with liberty, and quite unfortunate that some of those are in positions to take those liberties away.

Show me someone who does not trust us with the right to bear arms, and I will show you someone who does not trust us with any of our Constitutional liberties.


13 posted on 02/05/2013 6:30:30 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
First paragraph, all I need to read but I will go back and see if the rest is any more palatable:

I favor reasonable restrictions on the Second Amendment

14 posted on 02/05/2013 6:34:23 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
If more people were exercising their Right to keep and BEAR arms, none of those mass shootings would have been possible.

Regardless of what the nutcase was carrying or intending.

Period.

15 posted on 02/05/2013 6:35:02 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

What scares me most about this are irresponsible gun owners who leave their loaded guns laying around where toddlers can get a hold of it and kill themselves or or their siblings or little friends.


16 posted on 02/05/2013 6:36:59 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
I stand out among my conservative friends in disliking guns. I favor reasonable restrictions on the Second Amendment, such as bans on fully automatic weapons, background checks for purchases and forbidding the sale of guns to those with histories of mental illness or criminality.

How would she react to this position: "I stand out among my conservative friends in disliking freedom of the press. I favor reasonable restrictions on the First Amendment, such as bans on reckless articles such as this one, background checks for journalists and forbidding the sale of computer printers and blog sites to those with histories of mental illness or criminality"?

While books, movies, and blogs don't kill people, and the extremists on the left would argue that makes guns different, we are 100% certain that the reckless and irresponsible reporting of mass shootings motivates copycat criminals. The case for restricting and licensing freedom of speech and of the press is just as strong as the case for restricting and licensing firearms. Guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens pose no threat to other law-abiding citizens. Sensible people, those without a phobia, feel MUCH safer at a gun show, NRA convention, or conservative political rally than at a location where people are known to be disarmed.

Guns are tools, and they are often very good tools (in the sense of making the world better and not just in the sense of functioning well). As for infringements on the constitutional protections of our fundamental human rights, those are always harmful. Weakening our legal protections today makes it easier for a petty tyrant to go even further tomorrow. No, thank you. I'll continue to support the honest position that "shall not be infringed" means exactly what it says and should be followed as written.

17 posted on 02/05/2013 6:38:42 AM PST by Pollster1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: C. Edmund Wright

All three of her restrictions are already law, and have been for decades.


18 posted on 02/05/2013 6:39:40 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

It should scare you more that even more people don’t properly secure their scissors and kitchen knives, swimming pools, and stairways in the home. All of which kill as many, if not more, than carelessly store firearms...

What is it with the lib-tard/gun grabber talking points? Did someone hijack your account?


19 posted on 02/05/2013 6:42:31 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

More kids die from eating their parents medication than from guns.

More kids die in car accidents because of poorly installed car seats.


20 posted on 02/05/2013 6:44:54 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-47 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson