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To: ek_hornbeck
Thanks for your kind words at the end.

The logistical problems of deporting 11-35 million "illegals" are beyond the capacity of this nation to accomplish. Incarcerating them is certainly not a possibility. Too many people like me, called to jury duty, would vote not guilty. Think how easy it is to convict a Republican politician before a District of Columbia jury and how hard it is to convict Democrat politicians before such a jury. That has a variety of constitutional implications including the ban ion double jeopardy. Trials are not free. Keeping track of those charged is not free. Except as to the most dangerous individuals, it is not practical to incarcerate them pre-trial nor can we afford to.

You are right that it is technically as possible to deport a child who has been brought here as it is to deport the adult who brings he child. As a practical matter, prosecutors will be more comfortable going after he unmarried bandito without kids. Prosecutors still have to deal with our mountain of conventional crimes among those born here: homicides, rape, burglary, robbery, etc. They are not going to allow our native born criminals to run wild so that they can concentrate full time on Juan, Pablo and Maria.

If the AFDC payments to girls in barrios are a bad idea, then such payments to ghetto girls are as well and so are such payments to any girls. Equal protection means that the payments will be made to all who qualify or to none. The 14th Amendment says that national origin will not be a qualification.

The "quality of children????" Lothrop Stoddard, is that you?

As a Catholic, I will do whatever I can NOT to pay for abortions, for abortifacient methods of birth control, sterilizations, sex change operations and other modern horrors that violate the Natural Law. I would far prefer to pay for welfare checks than for the murder of innocent babies. You may have noticed that the American Catholic bishops agree. I would also prefer not to pay for welfare and would prefer a wide variety of conservative alternatives, including workfare, medical savings accounts, actual education in urban public schools, or vouchers or many private educational alternatives, for starters. On that, the bishops do not entirely agree, unfortunately. Abolish welfare and your problem goes away. Isn't THAT the conservative answer?

I would certainly prefer a state of morality in which teen-aged unmarried pregnancy is very rare. First things first, however. First, absolutely abolish abortion as an elective procedure. Second, if birth control of any sort were not available, you might be surprised at how rare teen pregnancy might become. Double that if abortion were not available.

Overpopulation??? Maybe Manhattan is overpopulated but not the USA. Do you have any clue as to just how big this country is?

My wife wants to take over the computer. We can discuss Social Security on another occasion.

God bless you and yours.

82 posted on 02/13/2013 7:57:39 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: BlackElk
Thanks for your kind words at the end.

You're very welcome. I don't have time to respond to your post in full either right now, but I do want to say that even if discussions get overheated and both of us throw in the tempting snide remark or two (as I surely did in the last post), I've always believed that people can be political opponents without being personal enemies.

Indeed, the thing that's missed most from the Reagan era is that he and those who disagreed with him saw each other as opponents rather than mortal enemies. That's certainly no longer true in Obamerica.

83 posted on 02/13/2013 8:37:03 PM PST by ek_hornbeck
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