GOP: With big Latino vote, Rubio would win presidency (Survey: Rubio would get 48% of Hispanic vote)

Washington Examiner ^ | 02/04/2013 | Paul Bedard

[SeekAndFind]

He's already being treated like the 2016 GOP presidential front-runner, and now there is another reason Republicans are excitedly buzzing about Florida Sen. Marco Rubio: He alone would reverse the party's slide among Hispanic voters.

A new nationwide poll from JZ Analytics found that Rubio would get 48 percent of the Hispanic vote, about twice what Mitt Romney won in 2012. Republican strategist told Secrets that a win among Latino voters that big would assure Rubio the presidency, since he would also likely keep the regular GOP base.

"If he does that good, then he's the next president," said a senior GOP official. "It makes him The Man, I guess," added the official.

The poll, provided to Secrets, did not indicate why Hispanics like Rubio, other than his story growing up in Florida as a child of Cuban parents is well known. He has also joined the bipartisan Senate effort to reform immigration.

[SeminoleCounty]

The Liberal MSM wants Rubio as the GOP nominee because they know Rubio is a closet liberal. If they cannot beat him...they will influence him

And, he is Cuban American.....which does not sell well in Mexican-Amer, Dominican, Puerto Rican, and Central Amer communities. He is also very “white”.....which is an issue among darker skinned Hispanics. Skin color is a big in many Hispanic families

That 48% Hispanic vote poll is bogus

[SeekAndFind]

RE: I agree that Rubio makes great speeches. Speechifying is not executive experience.

What about his VOTING RECORD and his record as legislator?

[Perdogg]

There is no perfect candidate, I have been trying to tell people that for 5 years.

[SeminoleCounty]

Somone that wants to create a program that takes trillions from our pockets and give it to lawbreakers....like Rubio plans to do with Rubio-Obama Amnesty...is no conservative. No more Karl Rove liberals

[Little Ray]

I don’t believe it for a second.
But if he does want that vote, he’ll have to stop acting like conservative (which won’t be hard - he isn’t).

[johnsmom]

An anchor baby is NOT a natural born citizen. His parents were immigrants albiet legal IMMIGRANTS. Rubio’s parents did not begin their immigration and naturalization process until more than four years after Marco’s birth, more than fifteen years after they took residence in the U.S. Therefore, they could not confer upon Marco that which they did not possess at his birth, U.S. Citizenship.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: There is no perfect candidate, I have been trying to tell people that for 5 years.

Well, I hope you’re not going to stay in the sidelines just because you can’t get someone perfect. What about voting for someone who agrees with you just 90% of the time?

[SeekAndFind]

RE: An anchor baby is NOT a natural born citizen. His parents were immigrants albiet legal IMMIGRANTS. Rubio’s parents did not begin their immigration and naturalization process until more than four years after Marco’s birth, more than fifteen years after they took residence in the U.S. Therefore, they could not confer upon Marco that which they did not possess at his birth, U.S. Citizenship.

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The English common law rule, under which a person’s citizenship was determined by the place of his birth, was known as jus soli.

The United States generally follows this rule.

Authority for this rule is found in the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which states that: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

The Supreme Court endorsed the universality of this rule in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark 169 U.S. 649, 18 S. Ct. 4561142 L. Ed. 890 (1898). The constitutional rule of jus soli has been construed generously and almost always has endowed all persons born in the United States with United States citizenship.

[Perdogg]

no, I vote for the better candidate. I voted for McCain in 2008, Romney in 2012, and I will vote for Rubio, or Rand Paul, or Michele Bachmann over Hillary or Cuomo anyday.

[SeminoleCounty]

Rubio’s parents were not citizens at the time of his birth....and with the legal precedent already set in about 80 different court cases....to be natural born one must also have citizen parents at time of birth

Note that the ones who inaccurately claim Marco Rubio is eligible are the same ones that fought against conservatives on Obama Eligibility.

[Little Ray]

Nope. It is more like “guests” leaving a banquet because they were given TV dinners and told to go eat in the kitchen.

Screw ‘em. Until conservatives get to set some of the policies, the ‘Pubbies can go look for another base and get used to being minority. Or go extinct.

[johnsmom]

Beg to differ Perdogg.

An “anchor baby” i.e. Rubio, is a child born in the U.S.A. to parents who are not legal U.S. Citizens AT THE TIME OF THE CHILD’S BIRTH. (Rubio’s parents, by his own admission, did not receive benefit of naturalized citizenship until he was four years old). Under the 14th Amendment and subsequent immigration and naturalization laws, the U.S.A. grants that child “naturalized citizen” rights at birth and then that child becomes an “anchor” upon which the foreign parents can apply and usually receive naturalized citizenship as immigrant Americans.

While our immigration and naturalization laws currently offer general citizen rights to “anchor babies” like Rubio, born in the U.S. to foreign parents, the 14th Amendment has no bearing at all upon the definition of Natural Born Citizen or the Article II constitutional qualifications for the office of President and Vice President.

A citizen is either naturalized under the 14th or Natural Born to legal citizen parents, exempt from all immigration and naturalization laws and amendments. It is not possible to be both.

[SeminoleCounty]

Excellent post on Rubio. Stated it best of all

[SeekAndFind]

RE: no, I vote for the better candidate. I voted for McCain in 2008, Romney in 2012, and I will vote for Rubio, or Rand Paul, or Michele Bachmann over Hillary or Cuomo anyday.

Well, I’m glad to hear that. Unfortunately, there are quite a number of FReepers who are one or two issue voters who would not vote for any Republican under any circumstances even if they agreed with them 75% of the time.

All we need are enough people like these in the USA and we’d have Democrats in power for as long as we can stand it.

[SVTCobra03]

I recently voted with Rand Paul on stopping the export of military equipment to Egypt.

If I am reading your statement correctly, you are claiming to be a United State senator.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: What has he done of note?

National Key Votes

Date	Bill No.	Bill Title	Outcome	Vote
Jan. 1, 2013	HR 8	Job Protection and Recession Prevention Act of 2012	Bill Passed - Senate (89 - 8)	Nay
Dec. 28, 2012	HR 5949	FISA Amendments Act Reauthorization Act of 2012	Bill Passed - Senate (73 - 23)	Yea
Dec. 21, 2012	HR 4310	National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013	Conference Report Adopted - Senate (81 - 14)	Yea
Dec. 4, 2012	Treaty Doc. 112-7	The Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities	Treaty Ratification Failed - Senate (61 - 38)	Nay
Nov. 30, 2012	S Amdt 3025	Requires Sufficient Sizing of Civilian and Contract Services Workforces	Amendment Rejected - Senate (41 - 53)	Nay
Nov. 29, 2012	S Amdt 3018	Prohibits the Indefinite Detention of Citizens and Lawful Permanent Residents	Amendment Adopted - Senate (67 - 29)	Nay
Nov. 29, 2012	S Amdt 3245	Prohibits the Use of Funds for the Transfer or Release of Individuals Detained at Guantanamo Bay	Amendment Adopted - Senate (54 - 41)	Yea
Nov. 29, 2012	S Amdt 3058	Expands TRICARE Coverage of Autism	Amendment Adopted - Senate (66 - 29)	Yea
Nov. 29, 2012	S Amdt 3096	Accelerated Transition of US Military Operations to the Government of Afghanistan	Amendment Adopted - Senate (62 - 33)	Nay
Nov. 28, 2012	S Amdt 2985	Repeals the Limit on the Use of Funds to Procure Alternative Fuel	Amendment Adopted - Senate (62 - 37)	Nay
Nov. 28, 2012	S Amdt 3095	Repeals the Prohibition on Biofuel Refinery Construction	Amendment Adopted - Senate (54 - 41)	Nay
Nov. 28, 2012	S Amdt 2955	Expands the Public Safety Officers' Benefits Program	Amendment Adopted - Senate (85 - 11)	Yea
Nov. 14, 2012	S 3414	Cybersecurity Act of 2012	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (51 - 47)	Nay
Sept. 22, 2012	H J Res 117	Continuing Appropriations Resolution, 2013	Joint Resolution Passed - Senate (62 - 30)	Nay
Aug. 2, 2012	S 3414	Cybersecurity Act of 2012	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (52 - 46)	Did Not Vote
July 25, 2012	S Amdt 2573	Tax Hike Prevention Act of 2012	Amendment Rejected - Senate (45 - 54)	Yea
July 25, 2012	S 3412	Middle Class Tax Cut Act	Bill Passed - Senate (51 - 48)	Nay
July 19, 2012	S 3364	Bring Jobs Home Act	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (56 - 42)	Nay
July 17, 2012	S 3369	DISCLOSE Act	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (53 - 45)	Nay
July 12, 2012	S 2237	Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (53 - 44)	Nay
June 21, 2012	S 3240	Agriculture Reform, Food, and Jobs Act of 2012	Bill Passed - Senate (64 - 35)	Nay
June 21, 2012	S Amdt 2310	Requires Labels on Foods with Genetically Modified Ingredients	Amendment Rejected - Senate (26 - 73)	Nay
June 21, 2012	S Amdt 2372	Prohibits the EPA from Conducting Aerial Surveillance of Agricultural Operations	Amendment Rejected - Senate (56 - 43)	Yea
June 20, 2012	S Amdt 2454	Prohibits Food Aid to North Korea Unless Waived by President	Amendment Adopted - Senate (59 - 40)	Nay
June 19, 2012	S Amdt 2156	Increases Funding for the Fresh Fruit and Vegetable Program	Amendment Rejected - Senate (33 - 66)	Nay
June 19, 2012	S Amdt 2172	Rescinds Bonuses to States for Administering Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)	Amendment Rejected - Senate (41 - 58)	Yea
June 19, 2012	S Amdt 2181	Limits Farm Subsidies to Farmers with Incomes Under $250,000	Amendment Rejected - Senate (15 - 84)	Yea
June 19, 2012	S Amdt 2174	Limits Eligibility for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)	Amendment Rejected - Senate (43 - 56)	Yea
June 13, 2012	S Amdt 2393	Repeals Sugar Subsidies	Amendment Tabled - Senate (50 - 46)	Yea
June 13, 2012	S Amdt 2392	Reduces Funding for Food Stamps	Amendment Tabled - Senate (65 - 33)	Nay
June 5, 2012	S 3220	Paycheck Fairness Act	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (52 - 47)	Nay
May 24, 2012	S Amdt 2153	Prohibits Increase in Interest Rates for Student Loans (Lamar Bill)	Amendment Rejected - Senate (34 - 62)	Yea
May 24, 2012	S Amdt 2107	Authorizes Import of FDA-Approved Drugs from Canada	Amendment Rejected - Senate (43 - 54)	Nay
May 24, 2012	S Amdt 2108	Prohibits FDA Approval of Genetically Engineered Fish	Amendment Rejected - Senate (46 - 50)	Nay
May 24, 2012	S 2343	Extends Student Loan Interest Rates (Reid Bill)	Bill Failed - Senate (51 - 43)	Nay
May 24, 2012	S Amdt 2111	Prohibits Pharmaceutical Companies from Delaying the Release of Generic Drugs	Amendment Rejected - Senate (28 - 67)	Nay
May 15, 2012	HR 2072	Export-Import Bank Reauthorization Act of 2012	Bill Passed - Senate (78 - 20)	Nay
May 8, 2012	S 2343	Extends Student Loan Interest Rates (Reid Bill)	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (52 - 45)	Nay
April 26, 2012	S 1925	Reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act	Bill Passed - Senate (68 - 31)	Nay
April 25, 2012	S 1789	United States Postal Service Amendments	Bill Passed - Senate (62 - 37)	Nay
April 16, 2012	S 2230	Establishes a Minimum 30 Percent Tax Rate for High-Income Taxpayers	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (51 - 45)	Nay
March 29, 2012	S 2204	Amends Energy-Related Tax Credits	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (51 - 47)	Nay
March 20, 2012	S Amdt 1836	Reauthorizing the Export-Import Bank of the United States	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (55 - 44)	Nay
March 8, 2012	S Amdt 1537	Approving the Keystone XL Pipeline Project	Amendment Rejected - Senate (56 - 42)	Yea
March 1, 2012	S Amdt 1520	Authorizes Moral and Religious Objections to Certain Health Care Items and Services	Amendment Tabled - Senate (51 - 48)	Nay
Feb. 17, 2012	HR 3630	Extends Payroll Tax Cut	Conference Report Adopted - Senate (60 - 36)	Yea
Feb. 6, 2012	HR 658	Federal Aviation Administration Act of 2012	Conference Report Adopted - Senate (75 - 20)	Yea
Feb. 2, 2012	S Amdt 1472	Prohibits Consideration of Bills Containing Earmarks	Amendment Rejected - Senate (40 - 59)	Yea
Feb. 2, 2012	S 2038	Prohibits Insider Trading by Government Officials	Bill Passed - Senate (96 - 3)	Yea
Feb. 2, 2012	S Amdt 1491	Requires Disclosure of Financial Transactions by Executive Branch Employees	Amendment Adopted - Senate (58 - 41)	Yea

[SeekAndFind]

RE: What has he done of note?

National Key Votes

Date	Bill No.	Bill Title	Outcome	Vote
Jan. 1, 2013	HR 8	Job Protection and Recession Prevention Act of 2012	Bill Passed - Senate (89 - 8)	Nay
Dec. 28, 2012	HR 5949	FISA Amendments Act Reauthorization Act of 2012	Bill Passed - Senate (73 - 23)	Yea
Dec. 21, 2012	HR 4310	National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013	Conference Report Adopted - Senate (81 - 14)	Yea
Dec. 4, 2012	Treaty Doc. 112-7	The Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities	Treaty Ratification Failed - Senate (61 - 38)	Nay
Nov. 30, 2012	S Amdt 3025	Requires Sufficient Sizing of Civilian and Contract Services Workforces	Amendment Rejected - Senate (41 - 53)	Nay
Nov. 29, 2012	S Amdt 3018	Prohibits the Indefinite Detention of Citizens and Lawful Permanent Residents	Amendment Adopted - Senate (67 - 29)	Nay
Nov. 29, 2012	S Amdt 3245	Prohibits the Use of Funds for the Transfer or Release of Individuals Detained at Guantanamo Bay	Amendment Adopted - Senate (54 - 41)	Yea
Nov. 29, 2012	S Amdt 3058	Expands TRICARE Coverage of Autism	Amendment Adopted - Senate (66 - 29)	Yea
Nov. 29, 2012	S Amdt 3096	Accelerated Transition of US Military Operations to the Government of Afghanistan	Amendment Adopted - Senate (62 - 33)	Nay
Nov. 28, 2012	S Amdt 2985	Repeals the Limit on the Use of Funds to Procure Alternative Fuel	Amendment Adopted - Senate (62 - 37)	Nay
Nov. 28, 2012	S Amdt 3095	Repeals the Prohibition on Biofuel Refinery Construction	Amendment Adopted - Senate (54 - 41)	Nay
Nov. 28, 2012	S Amdt 2955	Expands the Public Safety Officers' Benefits Program	Amendment Adopted - Senate (85 - 11)	Yea
Nov. 14, 2012	S 3414	Cybersecurity Act of 2012	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (51 - 47)	Nay
Sept. 22, 2012	H J Res 117	Continuing Appropriations Resolution, 2013	Joint Resolution Passed - Senate (62 - 30)	Nay
Aug. 2, 2012	S 3414	Cybersecurity Act of 2012	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (52 - 46)	Did Not Vote
July 25, 2012	S Amdt 2573	Tax Hike Prevention Act of 2012	Amendment Rejected - Senate (45 - 54)	Yea
July 25, 2012	S 3412	Middle Class Tax Cut Act	Bill Passed - Senate (51 - 48)	Nay
July 19, 2012	S 3364	Bring Jobs Home Act	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (56 - 42)	Nay
July 17, 2012	S 3369	DISCLOSE Act	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (53 - 45)	Nay
July 12, 2012	S 2237	Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (53 - 44)	Nay
June 21, 2012	S 3240	Agriculture Reform, Food, and Jobs Act of 2012	Bill Passed - Senate (64 - 35)	Nay
June 21, 2012	S Amdt 2310	Requires Labels on Foods with Genetically Modified Ingredients	Amendment Rejected - Senate (26 - 73)	Nay
June 21, 2012	S Amdt 2372	Prohibits the EPA from Conducting Aerial Surveillance of Agricultural Operations	Amendment Rejected - Senate (56 - 43)	Yea
June 20, 2012	S Amdt 2454	Prohibits Food Aid to North Korea Unless Waived by President	Amendment Adopted - Senate (59 - 40)	Nay
June 19, 2012	S Amdt 2156	Increases Funding for the Fresh Fruit and Vegetable Program	Amendment Rejected - Senate (33 - 66)	Nay
June 19, 2012	S Amdt 2172	Rescinds Bonuses to States for Administering Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)	Amendment Rejected - Senate (41 - 58)	Yea
June 19, 2012	S Amdt 2181	Limits Farm Subsidies to Farmers with Incomes Under $250,000	Amendment Rejected - Senate (15 - 84)	Yea
June 19, 2012	S Amdt 2174	Limits Eligibility for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)	Amendment Rejected - Senate (43 - 56)	Yea
June 13, 2012	S Amdt 2393	Repeals Sugar Subsidies	Amendment Tabled - Senate (50 - 46)	Yea
June 13, 2012	S Amdt 2392	Reduces Funding for Food Stamps	Amendment Tabled - Senate (65 - 33)	Nay
June 5, 2012	S 3220	Paycheck Fairness Act	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (52 - 47)	Nay
May 24, 2012	S Amdt 2153	Prohibits Increase in Interest Rates for Student Loans (Lamar Bill)	Amendment Rejected - Senate (34 - 62)	Yea
May 24, 2012	S Amdt 2107	Authorizes Import of FDA-Approved Drugs from Canada	Amendment Rejected - Senate (43 - 54)	Nay
May 24, 2012	S Amdt 2108	Prohibits FDA Approval of Genetically Engineered Fish	Amendment Rejected - Senate (46 - 50)	Nay
May 24, 2012	S 2343	Extends Student Loan Interest Rates (Reid Bill)	Bill Failed - Senate (51 - 43)	Nay
May 24, 2012	S Amdt 2111	Prohibits Pharmaceutical Companies from Delaying the Release of Generic Drugs	Amendment Rejected - Senate (28 - 67)	Nay
May 15, 2012	HR 2072	Export-Import Bank Reauthorization Act of 2012	Bill Passed - Senate (78 - 20)	Nay
May 8, 2012	S 2343	Extends Student Loan Interest Rates (Reid Bill)	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (52 - 45)	Nay
April 26, 2012	S 1925	Reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act	Bill Passed - Senate (68 - 31)	Nay
April 25, 2012	S 1789	United States Postal Service Amendments	Bill Passed - Senate (62 - 37)	Nay
April 16, 2012	S 2230	Establishes a Minimum 30 Percent Tax Rate for High-Income Taxpayers	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (51 - 45)	Nay
March 29, 2012	S 2204	Amends Energy-Related Tax Credits	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (51 - 47)	Nay
March 20, 2012	S Amdt 1836	Reauthorizing the Export-Import Bank of the United States	Cloture Not Invoked - Senate (55 - 44)	Nay
March 8, 2012	S Amdt 1537	Approving the Keystone XL Pipeline Project	Amendment Rejected - Senate (56 - 42)	Yea
March 1, 2012	S Amdt 1520	Authorizes Moral and Religious Objections to Certain Health Care Items and Services	Amendment Tabled - Senate (51 - 48)	Nay
Feb. 17, 2012	HR 3630	Extends Payroll Tax Cut	Conference Report Adopted - Senate (60 - 36)	Yea
Feb. 6, 2012	HR 658	Federal Aviation Administration Act of 2012	Conference Report Adopted - Senate (75 - 20)	Yea
Feb. 2, 2012	S Amdt 1472	Prohibits Consideration of Bills Containing Earmarks	Amendment Rejected - Senate (40 - 59)	Yea
Feb. 2, 2012	S 2038	Prohibits Insider Trading by Government Officials	Bill Passed - Senate (96 - 3)	Yea
Feb. 2, 2012	S Amdt 1491	Requires Disclosure of Financial Transactions by Executive Branch Employees	Amendment Adopted - Senate (58 - 41)	Yea

[Longbow1969]

Rubio’s parents were not citizens at the time of his birth....and with the legal precedent already set in about 80 different court cases....to be natural born one must also have citizen parents at time of birth

I think I will go with the opinion of constitutional scholars like Mark Levin on this one. Rubio was born in Miami, Florida. That makes him a natural born citizen. The citizenship status of his parents is irrelevant. The courts are not going to agree with you any more on Rubio than they did on Obama. Rubio is constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President (or VP). Period. The end.

[ansel12]

How did a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual agenda, creator of Romney/Obama care, Massachusetts liberal cult member, who in 20 years of running won a single election, and was rejected for reelection in that office, become the republican candidate?

People like you gave us Obama, and evidently want to continue down that path to irrelevancy.

[Conservative Vet]

I agree. I’m Hispanic myself, but that’s not the reason I like Rubio. He is the most gifted articulator of conservative principles since Reagan. The probably with Romney was that he wasn’t “fluent in the language of conservatism” since he was a big-government, establishment Republican at heart. Rubio captures the possiblilty in America as an opportunity society vs. the Democrat vision of equalized misery and government control as the “new normal”.