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New England fishermen say new regs mean ruin
Associated Press ^ | Jan 31, 2013 2:09 AM EST | Jay Lindsay

Posted on 01/30/2013 11:29:50 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

I wonder what owner of a large commercial fishing fleet that donated huge sums of money to Obama’s “war chest” is waiting for a very good year of fishing in the near future?

No regulation is issued unless there is some special interest group standing in the wings awaiting their reward for the support they gave the Democrat (Communist) party.


21 posted on 01/31/2013 4:20:20 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Olog-hai

Democrats and RINOS
GOD DENIERS AND CONGENITAL LIARS
ARE REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH INCITERS/
FOR FIRST YOUR MONEY THEN YOUR GUNS
AND BE DEFENSELESS WHEN THEY COME


22 posted on 01/31/2013 4:27:50 AM PST by mosesdapoet (.Should this former Chicago "Mechanic" go out of retirement ?)
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To: RadiationRomeo

So you’re OK with the fishermen being bankrupted by drastic cuts then?


23 posted on 01/31/2013 4:30:59 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Uncle Lonny

Foreign fishing fleets looting the grounds is Exactly right! Done via their US-government-supplied federal fishing permits handed out by political committees to foreign shell companies whose campaign contributions are not reportable or traceable.


24 posted on 01/31/2013 4:31:03 AM PST by Justa
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To: Olog-hai

is there an extreme shortage of these cod. I know that cod are harder and harder to catch as the numbers dwindle.

back in the 80s bans of Striped Bass in the north east for a decade or so brought this once depleted fishery back from the brink. Even I started catching Stripers again. I had never caught one till this happened.

I do not like govt intruding in anything...but is there perhaps a method to their madness??? or is it just another intrusion??


25 posted on 01/31/2013 4:34:21 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Olog-hai

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26 posted on 01/31/2013 4:38:57 AM PST by Colonial35
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To: Olog-hai

Part of the problem is 7 billion people on the Earth and large amounts of them finally getting out of the 3rd world, like India and China, and the fact that fish is very healthy.

So we’re told to eat more fish, take fish oil capsules,and in some places, fish is ground into fertilizer.

Most all of the fish consumed in the world is wild caught. The big factory ships are out there because everyone wants cheap, healthy-for-you fish.

I doubt many have an answer to any of this. All I see is fish going off my menu because it becomes too expensive. If we let the market work its magic rather than government then fish would be persued until there were hardly any left, and then the price would skyrocket. However, if we let government regulate the industry (worldwide, too) then prices would skyrocket.

Either way the price of ocean caught fish is going to go way, way up. Too bad for the Japanese and other cultures that eat a lot of fish.

Maybe at some point we’ll learn how to ranch or domesticate fish.


27 posted on 01/31/2013 4:50:48 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Portcall24

Sorry FR iend, The crabbing last year was the worst I have seen in the last 20 years.

The DNR told us what a great year it would be, it sucked.

I don’t see the crab population growing, Maybe this yera will be better.

However it was right to stop the dredging, I just hope one day it will help.


28 posted on 01/31/2013 4:53:54 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
Its a good thing they are not coal miners...they would be out of a job....oops...they are....SARC

I guess they need to study Community Organizing....

29 posted on 01/31/2013 5:25:45 AM PST by Youngman542012
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To: RadiationRomeo
The Michigan pig conspiracy is actually only an attempt to keep siberian boars out of the state.

Bullshit or in this case pigshit. It's not the hunters but the factory pork producers that are behind this. These farm animals were declared 'feral' simply because of the way they look. They were not and have never been feral, neither were they in any way invasive.

30 posted on 01/31/2013 5:32:37 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Olog-hai

All this clucking over the New Englanders voting for Dems. Serves ‘em right, eh?

We voted for Romney, so we’re beyond reproach.

In fact, the voting is totally beside the point. If we are dutifully paying our taxes we are just as blameworthy as these New Englanders. You work hard, send half of it to the govt, and then have a little schadenfreude over the bankruptcy of a fisherman?

I would only blame him for letting things go so far as bankruptcy, and being a material accomplice to the govt that ruined him, by paying his taxes.

Perhaps like Hank Rearden he loved his work more than he loved justice. But if you love America you should think hard about what wolf you’re feeding and enlarging.

If you’re so law-abiding you can’t bear to go rogue, you can always make some sacrifices and endure some hardship for the sake of America: cut back on work, or quit altogether. Then you won’t have to pay those taxes to the system you claim to believe is destroying the nation you claim to love.

Some day, someone is bound to reproach us, too, and say it served us right, because we considered our duty fulfilled by going to the polls and flipping a lever for some RINO.

Ask not for whom the bell tolls, or the bankruptcy court rules.


31 posted on 01/31/2013 5:33:12 AM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: Olog-hai
Let's see if I get this right - Blue state working class folks are going to lose their businesses after voting for blue state big government people at every level of thier politics. The tourist industry will drop because those quirky seafood places will close, because there is no FRESH fish. On top of that the once proud boat building business taht was a staple of their history ahs moved to Korea or South America, because the taxed luxury items out of the area or priced their labor out of the market. I feel terrible for what they got...it is what the wished for.

A real crime is that the grumpy old GOP trying to tell folks about the failure of government and regulations including UNION rules sounded like spoil sports. When their warning comes true people hate them even more for being accurate.

32 posted on 01/31/2013 6:00:10 AM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: Uncle Lonny

The fisheries in Newfoundland had collapsed before the Canadians shut it down. After 20 years it has just started showing signs of recovery and it is going to be years before it can be opened for fishing again. The dynamics of fisheries do not follow the dynamics of the free market (demand-supply) so this is one of the rare cases where external regulation is necessary. Collapse of fisheries is a worldwide phenomenon and can no longer be avoided. Even if the govt. didn’t regulate the New England industry, the fisheries would collapse anyway. This whole issue is nothing like the climate change or whatever, in the sense that it is obvious and very real.


33 posted on 01/31/2013 11:16:54 AM PST by kroll
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