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1 posted on 01/30/2013 9:46:47 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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Well, lady, victims and their families shouldn’t have a place at the table either then because you’re too emotionally damaged to make rational decisions.


38 posted on 01/31/2013 12:05:27 AM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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Please note that this woman did not suffer any loss. Her daughter survived the shooting. In fact, the article doesn't say the daughter had any injuries.

A "survivor" probably means anyone who was on campus that day.

No sympathy is called for.

39 posted on 01/31/2013 12:55:41 AM PST by Steve0113 (I miss having a president who loves this country.)
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Correction: Her daughter was injured. But not killed.


40 posted on 01/31/2013 12:58:17 AM PST by Steve0113 (I miss having a president who loves this country.)
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Dear Lori,

The person who shot people on the VA Tech Campus was already in violation of campus regulations. Discharging that firearm on campus is a violation of campus policy, and probably some local laws as well. Shooting people violates the law. Do you seriously think just one more law would have tipped the balance and stopped a madman from slaughtering students and staff there? Really?

Since the NRA runs training programs for Law Enforcement, as well as firearm safety, I think their presence in any debate to promote public safety vis-a-vis firearms is highly germane.

Your misguided ranting, simply on the basis of your daughter's misfortune, however, is not.

I pray you find more constructive ways to deal with your grief. As a parent, grandparent, and great grandparent, I'd be upset if one of ours got hurt, too. I would look for solutions which might have a real effect, though, and so far the only meaningful deterrents to maniacs have been forceful--on occasion, lethally so.

Disarming in the face of that threat is not the way to become more safe, quite the opposite.

Have a better day,

Smokin' Joe

43 posted on 01/31/2013 2:31:44 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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“We need to do a background check on all buyers on all gun sales.”

Once again I ask - What difference would that have made?
There was nothing stopping him from passing a background check because he had no criminal record. Nothing about his mental state would have been a factor in the approval process.


45 posted on 01/31/2013 2:47:38 AM PST by servo1969
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46 posted on 01/31/2013 3:32:45 AM PST by Zakeet (Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage - Mencken)
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“The NRA should not even be at the table,” she said. ”I don’t see reports from them, I don’t see studies from them, I don’t see activities from them, I don’t see policies from them that contribute to the public safety debate.”

Seriously?

If she doesn't see them, it's because she's refusing to look. Her ignorance is culpable.

47 posted on 01/31/2013 3:35:56 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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I thought Lindsey Graham did quite well in that hearing also.


49 posted on 01/31/2013 3:52:37 AM PST by tbpiper
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The government should not be at the table. Read the founders’ words on the second amendment - it is to keep the government in check. Why would anybody want the very entity for which the second amendment protects us from to have any say whatsoever in the issue?

Don’t let the fox guard unarmed hens.


50 posted on 01/31/2013 4:04:34 AM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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When’s the last time an NRA member went on a insane shooting spree in an educational institution?

If the PTA would get off their butts and insist on putting armed parents in every hallway of every school, our children would not just be safer from intruders, but also predator teachers.

53 posted on 01/31/2013 4:57:51 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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I'm getting real sick of these skewed statistics being thrown around.

74% of NRA members support background checks.. BULLsh24. I would say 74% of them MIGHT support background checks if they were done in good faith and done properly... such as not allowing an FFL to charge me 40 bucks for it, not running the sellers background, NOT recording any information about the firearm being sold... see, we all know these grabbers real intent is REGISTRATION. This is their chance for the first major step toward complete confiscation.

And just think, are we really willing to allow these grabbing bastards to decide who is actually fit to PASS a check? We've all seen just how easy it is to get on a no-fly list... and how equally impossible it is to get OFF of it in the case of mistakes. They won't even tell us what criteria they use to decide such things, why would this be any different?

Sure, even I would support the idea of background checks IF... no fees to seller or buyer, seller is not subject to scrutiny, no information about the firearm is recorded, all evidence of the check being performed is destroyed after it has been approved AND most importantly, only the truly dangerous individuals be classified as such and denied a transfer. See, there is far too much trust put into the hands of those who are trying to disarm us so in reality, very FEW NRA members would actually support these checks because history has shown us time and again that it will be abused without fail.

54 posted on 01/31/2013 5:55:15 AM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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