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To: TXnMA; Ernest_at_the_Beach
I viewed some of the postings that you contributed in. What I found apparent is the Google Maps/Google Earth images you worked with did not represent the date the alleged attack on said facility took place. They where at best month old plus.
Including Google Earth sat images from back in 2011.
I simply held quiet on that point. I thought that perhaps you had access to current sat photos of that site, within say the period just prior to the alleged attack took place and perhaps days or even hours afterward, and somehow superimposed them upon what we find at the Google site, that we can all view in various time frames.
In short. I did not want to hamper any work being done by you or perhaps others, that could elicit a confirmation that indeed this facility was indeed breached.
To date, it appears there has been no confirmation by the body of world news agencies that the attack on this site happened as reported by some.
Is the world news agencies sitting on this issue, perhaps awaiting some further solid information to surface.

Are they all awaiting on some news from reliable sources?
Who knows. I don't.
Thank you for your service to your country in the form of military service. And do continue to enjoy those blessings HE has bestowed upon you at present, and perhaps in the future.

127 posted on 01/31/2013 9:18:05 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle; Ernest_at_the_Beach
I use Google Earth all the time (for purposes explained in #120), and am painfully aware of that failing for real-time surveillance. In fact, the "before" image I used is date stamped 12SEP2011.

News sources, however, can pay to get current overflight photos -- and that is precisely why my analysis focused on the (undated) [and doctored, it turns out] photo from Business Insider's report on the "explosion".

All I could do was examine it to see if the appearance looked plausible -- then do detailed tests to determine if there was evidence of fakery. I was able to replicate the "damage" effect using "Photoshop tricks" -- and then to find those same "giveaway clues" in the BI image.

Thank you for following my work, and for your restraint in "keeping me honest". That's all we can do: be honest with -- and thoughtful of -- each other.

Unfortunately, too many FReepers nowadays have the attention spans of toddlers with ADHD, and once I showed that I could see no "blood in the water", bailed out of the discussion for other "news". Worse, many desperately wanted bad news out of Iran, and when I didn't "produce" what they wanted, apparently dismissed my analysis as "biased", and left in disgust. And that includes one long-time FReeper who should know better -- and shall remain unnamed... :-(

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Oh, well, during this exercise, I learned far more than I revealed about ways to use Google Earth for intelligence gathering -- and am now building a KML file database on all reported Iranian nuke sites -- "placemarking" features like tunnel entrances, ventilation shafts, utility entry points, defense structures, etc. So -- when they do get "put out of business", I will know what to look for -- and have a "time zero image base" to work from -- IF post-strike photos become available.

Again, thank you for your courtesy and honesty!

132 posted on 02/01/2013 4:53:59 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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