[Girlene]

We agree on amnesty, kabar.....but the Ruling class sees it differently (even Ryan). We are getting it. These guys are such horrible negotiators. Let’s tell the dems/obama we NEED reform (amnesty) to get reelected. It won’t help them, but it will further destroy America.

Up on MSNBC - just saw a commercial bashing Hagel - YAY - didn’t catch who put it on.

[kabar]

The Ruling Class has been destroying this country for some time. A few years ago I attended a CPAC dinner with George Will as the main speaker. At the dinner, Will expressed the same opinion he did today on ABC on immigration presenting the false choice between mass deportation or a blanket amnesty. He was booed by the audience freezing him like a deer in the headlights. He couldn't believe the reaction.

That said, I believe that the Establishment Reps now have the upper hand and will push immigration reform, read amnesty, in the mistaken view that it will get the subject off the table and gain Hispanic votes. They are wrong on both counts. This country is finished once the amnesty is passed. Just the talk of an amnesty will cause a flood of more illegals to take advantage of it--the same thing that happened in 1986. Only this time the numbers are much bigger.

Many of us said that this country would not survive the reelection of Obama. This was not a matter of hyperbole. I have not changed my view. The changes under Obama during the next 4 years will be impossible to undo, including the implementation of Obamacare, an amnesty, and the appointment of one or two Supreme Court justices.