Posted on 01/25/2013 8:05:16 AM PST by The_Freemason
I have a serious question for the "conservatives" on here. Why do you assume the GOP is conservative and why do you continue to support them? In he past 10 years the GOP has done nothing to prove they are a conservative alternative to the leftist democrats. They crow about fiscal restraint but GWB pushed the national debt to 10 trillion( don't throw out the Obama raised it 16, we know and it's not an answer). He started wars without congressional approval, gave us the TSA, Patriot act, warrantless wiretaps, drones flying over the country. Expanded medicare the list goes on. The current GOP is on the same bandwagon but does the same as the D's do. The GOP complains that the D's want a nanny state but they are no less intrusive. It's just that they want to control and determine your morals and values. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, Please.
The GOP claims to be for smaller gov't and personal freedom but I haven't seen either. If you truly believe in these ideals, IMHO the GOP is lying to you. I have been a Libertarian member for years. Only the LP actually believes in the idea of leaving you alone to live your life as YOU see fit. The LP would cut the budget into balance TODAY not 10 years from now (aka NEVER).
Maybe if more "conservatives" would stop worrying about what I ingest, who I marry and the like and examine what their party represents there could be a sea change in the country with 2 true competing visions for America. One based on free people, free minds and free markets and one based on planned markets, less freedom.
Ok, discuss amongst yourselves.
What do the first two lines state?
The underlying addictive behavior will still exist whether drugs are legalized or not.
You truly do not understand that, do you.
The problem exists with the behavior.
The item abused doesn’t matter.
It could be chalkdust, and still be abused.
No and no.
So is that 'yes, I have no preference between legality and illegality of alcohol and other addictive drugs' - or is it a nonanswer?
“Name one place anywhere in America, including inside any of our federal penitentiaries, where anyone cannot obtain any illegal drug they choose on demand.”
Being that is true, one can go and obtain any currently illegal substance they want pretty fairly easily, that kinda does shoot down some of the pro-drug legalization argument.
Namely, “it’s difficult to obtain what we want.”
Though usually stated a different way.
[”It costs too much!”]
“Wrong - that takes government change in ceasing to exercise power. “
Youu are still appealing to government power in that statement.
You don’t understand taht, do you.
No, it is a statement that the behavior needs to be changed.
Nothing more.
Psychology isn’t your thing, is it.
Your might be. Mine wasn’t. When I didn’t like what was going on in the school I didn’t try to use government to force them to do anything. I manned up and put my kid in a private school. No, I wasn’t rich. I just ate a lot of mac & cheese. Soccer moms and too often what passes for “conservatives” want to have government schools be free range daycare. Failing that, they want Nerf World where all the corners are rounded off and everyplace must be their version of child friendly because they don’t want to actually do what it takes to raise their children.
So was Jim Rob, so was I.
W was the “hold your nose and vote” candidate, just like his father.
It's the story of our life here.
*ugh*
The private school here that is in easy reach is, shall we say, less than stellar.
They had a nurse there with psychological body issues.
If you were skinnier than her behemoth frame, she said you were anorexic and reported you to the state under child abuse laws.
Supposedly a Christian school.
After the family member that was in that school got pulled out, that nurse finally flamed out in a blaze of glory and got fired.
But not before doing damage to several families.
There are no good schools either private or otherwise in my immediate area.
Links?
The reason for home schooling.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2981786/posts?page=118#118
Bottom of that post, it is the same argument.
Which NY is trying to make impossible.
Failing at it, but trying.
Thanks, for joining in the fun!
Have a great weekend!
Welcome!
Youu are still appealing to government power in that statement.
Wrong again - it's an appeal to government but not to government power.
No, it is a statement that the behavior needs to be changed.
Nothing more.
So not an answer to "Do you have a preference between legality and illegality of alcohol and other addictive drugs?"
Will you answer that question, or continue to feebly dodge it?
“Wrong - that takes government change in ceasing to exercise power. “
That is contradictory.
For something to be legal, government has to declare it so.
Your position is “Government has no authority, so I’ll appeal to them.”
That is illogical.
Why are you appealing to government to “Legalize this”, you say they have no authority to begin with.
And it still takes government power to do the opposite.
You are still appealing to government, the same one you state has no authority.
Being that is true, one can go and obtain any currently illegal substance they want pretty fairly easily, that kinda does shoot down some of the pro-drug legalization argument. Namely, “it’s difficult to obtain what we want.” (Darksheare)
Links? (Fattigermaster)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2981786/ posts?page=118#118 Bottom of that post, it is the same argument. (Darksheare)
My reason for supporting drug legalization is that the illegality of drugs hyperinflates drug profits and channels those profits into criminal hands -without demonstrably helping users, improving their lives, or fixing the underlying issue. (JustSayNoToNannies)
Doesn't look like like the link you described where illegal drug users said "we can't get what we want".
Want to try again?
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