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3 D PRINTING OF MACHNINE GUN
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Posted on 01/23/2013 12:17:32 PM PST by Manta

Glen Beck has guest who has and is able to print AR-15 like machine gun. Video has link to youtube vid of weapon in use

http://defensedistributed.com/


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: 3dprinting; banglist; guncontrol; machnine
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To: Manta

if anything this makes magazines a pointless exercise in law.

This is about taking civil rights without due process.


41 posted on 01/23/2013 1:24:39 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Man, I knew you gun guys would be all over me like a cheap suit when i posted that link.


42 posted on 01/23/2013 1:26:34 PM PST by Manta (Obama to issue executive order repealing laws of physics)
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To: Vince Ferrer
I don't see anything in a gun that someone could not make on a current metal printer, except maybe the spring.

Bull!

Show me a printed barrel that can stand 50,000 CUP pressure on a sintered metal printer. You can't. It would fly apart after 1 shot.

43 posted on 01/23/2013 1:26:48 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: Manta
Man, I knew you gun guys would be all over me like a cheap suit when i posted that link.

Sorry, not trying to be mean. It's just that we see the same misinformation all over the place, and maybe we get a little tired of refuting it.

I'll try to be nicer, since I know you're not trolling :-)

44 posted on 01/23/2013 1:29:28 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Cody has a demo video for the magazine. Part II has him first shooting in semiauto, then clicking up the happy switch to full. Looks like he has a nice little can on it too.

In the video I mention above, he's using a printed mag... But I'd go dimes to doughnuts the rest of the rifle is a registered Class III and not one of his printed receivers.

45 posted on 01/23/2013 1:31:11 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: driftdiver
He’s not printing or using the printed uppers, that is a regular firearm. As I understand firearm laws you can make lowers and other parts all day long legally. In the case of an AR15 the upper is the regulated part which requires a firearm manufacturers license to make.

Others have pointed out the lower is the firearm, but they didn't mention that you can, legally, make your own lower, for your own use, with no intent to sell (as long as ownership of said item is legal where you live). You can buy 80% lowers on-line, finish them yourself, and maintain the lower as your own, and it needs no serial number (but is recommended strictly for security purposes), doesn't have to go through an FFL, nor does it require a manufacturer's permit.

http://www.tacticalmachining.com/80-lower-receiver.html

46 posted on 01/23/2013 1:33:58 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: riverrunner

In addition to the auto sear, the design of the selector lever, hammer,disconnector and bolt carrier differ from the one in the commercial AR-15.


47 posted on 01/23/2013 1:35:21 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: I want the USA back

I’d bet they’re working on ‘regulations’, already.

http://gcn.com/blogs/emerging-tech/2012/10/will-3d-printing-be-regulated.aspx


48 posted on 01/23/2013 1:37:11 PM PST by Carriage Hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: SandRat
This is not the AR-15. The AR-15 is a Semiautomatic, every time the trigger is pulled it fires 1 round.

I saw a new terminology for A-15s.

They are now called Modern Sportsmans Rifles.

49 posted on 01/23/2013 1:56:02 PM PST by TYVets
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To: demshateGod
Last time I saw he was able to get six shots before his lower broke. Is he getting more out of them now?

Oh yea, that was many weeks ago. They are getting better at this by the minute.

50 posted on 01/23/2013 1:58:03 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Show me a printed barrel that can stand 50,000 CUP pressure on a sintered metal printer. You can't. It would fly apart after 1 shot.

I don't have any examples of that part specifically, but there is a lot of research being done on metal printing, since there is a lot of interest from aerospace. Instead of just sintering the parts together, there is other post processing now to make the parts stronger. Here is one example:

ExOne Metal Printing Process

Also, the part can probably be cast metal, so we could use a sand printer to create the mold and just cast it:

ExOne Sand Printing Process

Keep in mind that a person doesn't have to completely recreate a commercial model in its exact specifications. If a part needs to be stronger because the printed material is weaker, the engineer may just need to make the critical part thicker.

51 posted on 01/23/2013 2:03:38 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: houeto

Awesome! Thanks.


52 posted on 01/23/2013 2:07:45 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: DMZFrank
Depending on the build date as BATF became more involved the less M16 parts Colt place in their guns.

Colt went so far as to change the trigger pin and receiver pin sizes to satisfy BATF and kiss the government's A$$ trying to maintain their government contracts.

53 posted on 01/23/2013 2:08:10 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: I want the USA back
Guess there will be a ban on 3d printers.

Uphold Freedom of the Press! (We had that label on the Dake 50 ton press at the shop I used to work at).

54 posted on 01/23/2013 2:11:12 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Manta

Video - 3D Printing A Gun
http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=25560075&source=THEBLAZE




55 posted on 01/23/2013 2:11:51 PM PST by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Sintering From Wikipedia, the free encyclope Sintering is a method used to create objects from powders. It is based on atomic diffusion. Diffusion occurs in any material above a Particular advantages of the powder technology include: Very high levels of purity and uniformity in starting materials Capability to fabricate high-strength material like turbines
56 posted on 01/23/2013 2:29:19 PM PST by Manta (Obama to issue executive order repealing laws of physics)
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To: Manta

I try to explain to people that guns are a 14th century technology - it isn’t splitting the atom. Gunpowder is made from very abundant minerals.

You can build a gun if you have a semi decent machine shop, like a place that mills engine parts or bores cylinders. I think the guy who made the MAC-10 worked out of a quonset hut.

Like passing a law against guns will make them go away. The mob will make them.


57 posted on 01/23/2013 2:35:30 PM PST by LibertyLA (fighting libtards and other giant government enablers!)
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To: Manta

perhaps the government will mandate do not duplicate codes like the forced adobe and scanner makers.


58 posted on 01/23/2013 2:38:14 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: driftdiver
He’s not printing or using the printed uppers, that is a regular firearm. As I understand firearm laws you can make lowers and other parts all day long legally. In the case of an AR15 the upper is the regulated part which requires a firearm manufacturers license to make.

You're slightly wrong on a couple points. First, with split upper/lower designs it's the lower that's serialized and controlled, not the upper, although the upper is more mechanically demanding and from an engineering (but not legal) perspective might be considered the more firearm-y part.

Second, no license is legally needed to make even the controlled portion of a firearm, as long as you're making it for your own use and it's not an NFA item (full auto, suppressor, destructive device, etc.). You can even sell or otherwise transfer them at some future date, so long as you're not selling them in a volume that would imply you're actually in the firearm manufacturing business.

59 posted on 01/23/2013 2:52:03 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Vince Ferrer
I don't see anything in a gun that someone could not make on a current metal printer, except maybe the spring.

Actually, I'd think the barrel is the choke point, manufacturing technology wise, which is why the morons chose not to make that the regulated part. D'oh! (from their POV) While yes, you can print metal, I'd think printed metal would tend to be weaker in ultimate tensile strength as well as more brittle than normal wrought stock. Printing WOULD make rifling a barrel a lot easier, though, if you can find an appropriate feedstock to print with. Right now, rifling is difficult, relative to the other tasks in gunmaking. Certainly for a small one man shop.

60 posted on 01/23/2013 3:01:19 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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