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To: itsahoot
And therein lies the problem, your brand doesn’t work.

Excuse me. How did the conservatives do in the last couple of elections?

You think conservatives are going to make any headway on the deficit when those same conservatives try to tell a bunch of people how to live that don't want to live that way? Hi, vote for my guy because he wants you to live the way you don't want to live.

Practical reality and the sheer evidence of U.S. social policy direction should tell you it is not working.

Social conservatives should focus on effective means to bring about the kind of social change that is necessary. Trying to do it through legislative policy sure aint working. In fact, it could not be going more quickly in the wrong direction.

What you are advocating is the equivelent of trying to move a wagon uphill by pushing the rope. You aint getting anywhere. Time to start pulling.

Or thought of another way, you don't make wine by yelling down in the bottle, Be Wine!

35 posted on 01/22/2013 3:29:55 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom; stilloftyhenight
Trying to do it through legislative policy sure aint working.

Exactly!!!

The so-con faction here on FR loves to share that John Adams quote: "Our Constitution was made only......" without following through with its implication, that the Constitution cannot make an immoral people into a moral one.

That transformation can take place only via the winning of hearts and minds at the retail, face to face level.

Social (and all) conservatives need to steer clear of the liberal temptation to try and make men virtuous by legislative enactment.

56 posted on 01/22/2013 4:39:27 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Excuse me. How did the conservatives do in the last couple of elections?

Which conservative in the GOP leadership were you referring to, that is losing?

The current GOPe is really the shadow team for Democratic Progressiveism. They lost because there was little difference in the fake conservative and the Progressives they were running against. There were two Socons that suffered from foot in mouth syndrome, but there were al least seven pretend conservatives that also lost.

101 posted on 01/22/2013 11:07:33 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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