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To: Steelfish

Funny how the same press that sold Obama to the country as a hopey-changey uniter has done a heelspin and is now delighting in the prospect of Obama as hammer and tongs vanguisher of the opposition party.


9 posted on 01/20/2013 9:42:27 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

vanguisher = vanquisher


12 posted on 01/20/2013 9:43:15 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

Funny how the same press that sold Obama to the country as a hopey-changey uniter has done a heelspin and is now delighting in the prospect of Obama as hammer and tongs vanguisher of the opposition party.
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Very good post. The MSM and Obama have a lot in common. They both embrace the same ideology, mendacity and hypocrisy.


26 posted on 01/20/2013 10:07:09 AM PST by Starboard
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That has been the objective all the time, you know. To drive the conservative movement in this country down so far, they will be discouraged for all time and just wither away.

To do this, the ‘Progressives’ have been using incremental means, stepping up the ratchet a little at a time, until suddenly, we are bowed over backwards.

They think us helpless, but that is only their own perception. Mahatmas Gandhi, that idol so greatly exalted by the leftists, was the very picture of civil disobedience.

But there was one major difference between what Gandhi was compelled to do by the limitations put upon him and the philosophy he held dear, and the oppressed conservatives in the territory once known as the United States of America. The British had disarmed the indigeous people of India, and forced the subjection to the British Crown. They did this by a system of maintaining military outposts across the world, and exacting tribute from those lands they held as colonies in the form of raw materials and trade deals. Most of the time, these deals were fairly arrived at, but to assure that there would be no repetitions of the experience with the North American colonies, the British encouraged the subjects to move relatively freely between the homeland of Great Britain and the other crown colonies.

Gandhi was well acquainted with the concepts of British law, and first moved within those rules to win greater home freedoms for India. But he very shortly bumped up against some extremely powerful vested interests, and found his causes pretty much ending up ignored or subverted.

Most of the British Empire had never known anything like parliamentary government, or election of high officials, or political parties, or anything of the sort. So the British empire was, inadvertantly, planting the seeds of its own later dissolution. The colonies and territories that had once been unaware of the potential for exercise of nationalist power, were awakened to it and proceeded to make life, if not difficult, at least expensive for the British Crown.

Driven to desperation, Gandhi, speaking for a goodly portion of the people of India, had to confront the British using interpretations of their own legal system that step by step, drove out the British control. But it involved a readiness to risk imprisonment for exercise of those beliefs, and Gandhi was the leading example of how that method was to be applied.

The resistance proved to be effective, and the British, diminished and weakened by engaging in a world-wide war, finally surrendered almost all of its empire, which at one time had stretched in a belt all the way around the globe.

It turned out, Gandhi was a much better revolutionary than governor, and India was wracked by more trouble and dissention AFTER the British left, than it ever had before, as there was no way to settle the rift between the Muslim and non-Muslim populations, which resulted in the separation of the Republic of India from the Republic of Pakistan. Pakistan was originally in two geographically widely separated parts, the eastern portion finally was granted separate recognition as Bangladesh.

The people of India had to rearm themselves, just to keep this separation from boiling over into an endless mob riot. Not everybody was armed, of course, but the peace between Pakistan and India, uneasy though it is at times, was further enforced by the sure knowledge that invasion of either one by the other would lead to massive resistance in the territories in dispute.

And that is what we now have in this country. The conservative movement is at an uneasy truce with the Current Regime in the White Hut, which could go away very quickly. There shall never be agreement, or meaningful compromise, that will bring a real and lasting peace between the two factions. So several options are open.

One is to rise up and crush the arrogance of the Current Regime and Bronco Bama, which may be a fools’ errand, considering the lack of concern among so many people who, although they were born within the territory once known as the United States of America, have no feeling of empathy for that notion of a set of ideals that reigned over this land for more than two centuries. A futile task at best, and one that could not be accomplished without vast expenditure of time, toil, blood, tears, and sweat. And there would STILL be a vast number of unconverted minds.

Joining the majority by a total surrender of personal morality and individual initiative only exacerbates the problem, and demonstrates the effectiveness of their methods. Choosing the lesser of two evils is still evil.

The one I personally like best, is declaration of a separate nation, one in which the historic values of that entity once known as the United States of America still live and flourish. Secession has NEVER been declared to be illegal, in a court of law. It was only brought to a stop before by superior force of arms and economic embargo.

Draw a line between the so-called “red” districts, and so-called “blue” districts, based not on state lines, but in congressional districts or even by counties. Delcare the “red” part a separate nation, governed by the old rules enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. The “blue” districts, fragmented little pockets they are, may just go ahead and set up whatever set of cockamamie rules they want to live by, and keep their noses out of how the “red” nation chooses to provide for its citizens.


35 posted on 01/20/2013 11:05:24 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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