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Al Gore Nets Another Fortune on Apple Stock [Buys 60,000 Shares Valued @ $7.48/Share!]
Yahoo News ^ | January 18, 2013 | Javier E. David

Posted on 01/18/2013 9:01:18 PM PST by Steelfish

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To: Revolting cat!

Maybe now Albert Gore JUNIOR, crazed sex poodle, can afford to pay for a massage that comes with a “happy ending”.


61 posted on 01/19/2013 5:33:24 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: headsonpikes
Jeez - you must aspire to be a crony capitalist.

I AM a capitalist - an investor actually, and in point of fact I have been a vocal opponent of certain stock options deals that I've seen doled out to the uninvolved, like board members, for example. For executives, on the other hand, stock options can be a very effective motivator.

In this case, we don't know how Gore come into these options. He might have bought them (well, it is possible) as likely as not. If the options were provided by Apple as part of his compensation as a board member, then I would not have approved, were I an investor in Apple. But, I'm not, and therefore it is not a matter of concern for me.

62 posted on 01/20/2013 7:42:08 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Fledermaus
It’s a pay off. Ought to be illegal.

How about salaries? Should they also be illegal? Aren't they payoffs as well?

How about YOUR salary?

63 posted on 01/20/2013 8:06:30 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
I AM a capitalist - an investor actually, and in point of fact I have been a vocal opponent of certain stock options deals that I've seen doled out to the uninvolved, like board members, for example. For executives, on the other hand, stock options can be a very effective motivator.

Me, too. Actually, even though retired, I possess significant options in a Canadian listed company, granted to me as part compensation in my capacity as a consultant.

However, when options are granted to those who bring to the table only their government connections, I have trouble justifying this ethically.

Just as all real world socialism is some form of national socialism, so all real world capitalist systems turn out to be some form of crony capitalism. This is all a matter of particular historical and intellectual interest to me, whatever the shyster-crafted legalities might detail.

64 posted on 01/20/2013 8:55:51 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: John Valentine

I don’t get “preferred” stock offers from IPO’s because I’m not an insider. What the hell does that have to do with salaries?


65 posted on 01/20/2013 8:05:25 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: Fledermaus
What the hell does that have to do with salaries?

That you have to ask this question at all proves my point. We have a lot of people on this forum who don't understand much of business or economics.

What do stock options (not "stock offers") have to do with salaries, you ask?

Stock options are a common component of executive compensation, which typically consists of a direct payment component, a fringe benefit component, and a stock options component. Ideally, the stock options should vest only upon the successfully meeting one or more pre-established criteria such as a defined net income or market share, or the achievement of a specific task, such as successfully completing certain development milestones.

Occasionally, stock options are granted to board members as part of their compensation packages. This is a practice which has attracted some well-deserved criticism. Better, in my opinion to restrict board members to cash compensation.

I hope this answers your question, at least in part.

66 posted on 01/20/2013 8:59:52 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
I’m not an idiot. I’ve been in business for over 30 years. Gore was a “board” member like I’m the King of England.

He was given a preferred option someone like you and me could never get for basically nothing. Unless you can show what value he added to the company other than his access to “the system” then I’ve proven MY point. It’s a payoff.

Frankly, I’m sick and tired of our so-called representatives using their influence, access and ways around the law (I wonder how above board the SEC would think the deal was) to enrich themselves. It’s like the fact, for some reason I don’t believe is lawful, Congress can exempt themselves from insider trading.

It all stinks. I don’t care if it looks above board. And it’s hypocritical since Gore and his ilk attack anyone else for the same so-called compensation.

I understand your explanation and did from the start. I agree with you that it should be scrutinized more closely. I bet the SEC would jump on a company that just willy-nilly put anyone “on the board” and give them large compensation packages.

Mitt Romney gets criticized for being on boards and I bet he actually gives something in return.

BTW, I have a degree in economics also (yeah, that pays the bills) and that “science” really hasn’t got much to do with compensation per say. A lot of the shift to those forms of compensation, ironically, increased when the Clinton tax bill of 1993 limited corporate salary write-offs to $1 million a year.

Again, it stinks. And I won’t take the condenscending tone personally! :)

67 posted on 01/21/2013 12:11:12 AM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: John Valentine

That was a joke!


68 posted on 01/21/2013 12:12:31 AM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: Steelfish

another good reason not to buy stuff from crapple. Never have and never will


69 posted on 01/21/2013 12:17:18 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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