Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: RightFighter
Please read Miracle at Pennsylvania to understand how every word of both the Constitution and the Bill of Rights was meticulously argued and fought over.

If there had been any ambiguity in the understanding of the Second Amendment, it would not have take over 200 years to discover it.

Modern, progressive, interpretation of the founding documents have produced many falsehoods, ambiguities, penumbras and fictitious rights that the founders did not include.

8 posted on 01/18/2013 12:32:52 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Proud Thought Criminal since 1984)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: Aevery_Freeman
The Second Amendment is about far more than firearms, or militia, or even weapons in general ~ it is about a single expression ~ to wit: "the right to keep and bear arms".

That is a body of traditional privilege and rights that were worked out over thousands of years to differentiate the class obligated to defend the state from the class of commoners, not so obligated, or of slaves.

The term "people" applied to everyone ~ even slaves ~ as determined by state law ~ and was about as universal as you can get. The Supreme Court has made some determinations that "people" even gives rights to illegal aliens and jailed prisoners.

So, that's where we are ~ mystical origins in dawn of time ~ and somebody forgot to mention this in the body of the Constitution itself.

I'd be somewhat concerned with what it was motivated the Constitution's writers to fail to deal with one of the more overriding concerns of the time ~ the status of the NOBILITY ~ please note they said the gub'mnt couldn't give you a title of nobility, but that didn't necessarily mean you weren't still a nobleman!

Think about that a moment ~ the Constituion prohibits federal or state involvement in giving noble titles to folks BUT it doesn't abolish the class system inherited from Great Britain, and Europe in general ~ or from Indo-European history.

...........

Enough thinking time. So what did the Founders do about this pressing problem? That's where I think the Second Amendment comes into play ~ it assumes the right to keep and bear arms is part of the rights and privileges inherent in being a person in America ~ that is, that you are a nobleman just because you are here ~ and the federal government is prohibited from abridging any of the privileges and subordinate rights that derive from noble status!

So, what special rights did a nobleman have? For starters all noblemen could actually

keep arms ~

hire arms makers ~

own forges and foundries ~

breed war horses ~

arm their ships ~

arm their wagons and other rolling stock ~

build castles ~

build defensive walls and ditches ~

stock gunpowder ~ ........ ~

and most important in an earlier time, keep armor!

Non nobles were simply prohibited from doing or having any of those things!

The body of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights recognize many other rights and privileges that pertained only to nobles ~ in fact, most all of the rights named in the Constitution in any way were, in an earlier time, rights only nobles had!

once you have all that firmly in mind you immediately discover what it was they were saying about slavery ~ that in states where some people were property their rights could be abridged, but where people were people, they were assumed to be noblemen with all the rights and privileges attendent there to.

At the same time the Founders did abolish the former class system. Removal of the Second Amendment would re-establish the class system ~ because nothing else abolishes it.

23 posted on 01/18/2013 1:27:28 PM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]

To: Aevery_Freeman

I believe you mean Miracle at Philadelphia.


91 posted on 01/19/2013 10:30:15 AM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson