Posted on 01/16/2013 12:36:37 PM PST by Kevin in California
If my Dr. asks me if I have any guns in my house, I’ll tell him he wants to find out, come crawling through my daughter’s window at 3AM and your question will be answered. Case closed…
“But there is public confusion about whether federal law prohibits such reports about threats of violence”
I am assuming that CDC along with anti-gun medical associations will eventually define “threat of violence” as the condition of owning a firearm.
“Protect the rights of health care providers to talk to their patients about gun safety:”
I believe that every doctor who wants to talk to a patient about gun safety should be certified to do so by the NRA.
Every doctor should be as comfortable with a pistol, rifle, shotgun and have familiarity with their anatomy, physiology and safe handling before they can assess patients about it.
After all, we have to be certified to practice our medical speciality, and also have to be certified in Child/Domestic Abuse and Infection Control as a prerequisite for our licensure.
(I am a practicing physician in New York and a member of the NRA)
you’d probably be right on numbers, but I practice in the south and I’m positive it’s pretty high. People forget the government has been messing with us long before they started on the rest of the public. We are pretty good at dealing with the harrassment
It’s OK to lie to your doc.
Although I know a few liberal socialist Dim Doc's around here too.....
Yep...the Fed's mess with Health Care Provider's all the time...and have been forever.
I have not forgotten that some healthcare providers belong to unions. How convenient.
You are far more likely to be injured or killed from medical malpractice than you are with a gun.
“I am coaching my children to not talk about guns we own, keep in the house, shoot, etc.”
We don’t talk about them anymore either - well maybe to other known gun owners - but never in general conversation anymore.
Sadly - Amerika is now at the point where patriots have to practice op-sec with other Americans - sad.
That’s the way gubmint works. They’re always expanding. Sometimes in giant strides like passing Obamacare, more often by push, push, pushing where they already have a little penetration. There are all these little points of contact between the individual and the state, and they manage always to maximize the amount of impact they have through them, no matter how modestly they began.
So government builds roads. It stands to reason they should be able to police them. We don’t want them interrupting us willy-nilly, but also don’t want cars to be like homes. Can’t get a warrant in time to be useful. Hence cops are in constant contact with regular citizens for mundane reasons. They use this opportunity to ask you stupid questions, but also to run your id through a computer. To always run you through the gubmint database. Because this is their chance to catch you, no matter all you did was drive a little too fast. Or not even that, if it’s a checkpoint and they don’t even need probable cause.
Then there’s the census, which constitutionally only needs to know how many people live with you and maybe a couple other things. But this is their foot in the door to get precious information. Their chance to adjust properly the Welfare State to the people’s needs, or rather gives them an excuse to shove more welfare down our throats. They ask such ridiculous questions, for such seemingly useless information, and pretend like those who refuse to answer are criminals.
Then there’s the doctor’s office, and I don’t know where to start. It’s just a panopoly of information they pry out of you, and soon there won’t be any such thing as privacy. Here they don’t even try to mitigate it, as traffic nosiness restricts itself as I said to when they have reason to pull you over or when they have set up a checkpoint, or the census which only happens once a decade.
IMO the place to begin teaching “gun safety” is in the school. Not by some nut job professor. Guns have been in America’s life from the early beginning. Guns are nothing more than tools and teaching how to safely use them should be taught in every school. For those of us old enough to remember when were we in high school shop class, we were taught how to safely use “tools” (hammers, chisels, power saws, etc.) We were taught also to respect those tools. How to care for them, store them and keep them in good working order. Guns are no different. The more kids learn about them and how to treat and care for them, the more safely they will handle them. Improper use of a tool can be catastrophic.
There is such a thing as the right of healthcare peddlers to talk about gun safety? What about my right to tell them to shut their traps? Even on such issues as they may have limited expertise I tell them to go sick an egg. Because it’s not their business to tell me how to be healthy but to patch me up to continue whatever life I decide to live.
They don’t tell me what to think at the bookstore, or how to dress at the clothing store. They just offer whatever services for which I’m willing to pay. The ones who’d most benefit from advice on his to live healthily according to the arbitrary fads of health mechanics, the great unwashed, are too stupid or uninterested to listen, anyway. Meanwhile I have to listen to attempted conscientiousness from otherwise intelligent people who’d be about as well off following common sense.
Do not ever admit to anyone in the medical profession that you ever feel anything other than normal mentally. Do not ever let them know you have weapons of any sort. If you do, you will be recorded and you will be one of the first to lose your rights, or lose your life fighting for those rights.
Have you ever considered the possibility that HHS will send ‘secret shoppers’ to doctor’s offices, to make sure they are correctly interrogated about guns and ‘counseled’ on end of life decisions.
I’m serious.
Pretty soon we will all be talking like lawyers: “Doctor, I respect your 1st Amendment rights, but in order to protect my 2nd Amendment rights I exercise my 5th Amendment rights.”
Pretty soon we will all be talking like lawyers: “Doctor, I respect your 1st Amendment rights, but in order to protect my 2nd Amendment rights I exercise my 5th Amendment rights.”
and how about the youngish female physician assistants? Will they ask?
About as smart as Gun & Ammo magazine running articles on medicine and surgery.
I don’t ask my patients about firearms, unless we are discussing the relative attributes of one over another.
However, if there were to be pressure put on MD’s to discuss such topics (by the Feds), I would counsel a patient to ask, “Doctor, what are your qualifications to discuss firearm safety?”
If the doctor had no qualifications, the patient could rightly refuse to discuss the subject without causing a scene.
I think the NRA should be pro-active and educate doctors in gun safety.
I read your post to my husband because it made me laugh. He then proceeded to tell me about his boss’s recent visit with his long-time physician. The physician asked John whether he had guns in his house, and John was confused, because his physician had never asked him about his guns before. John really didn’t know what to say, so he asked the Doc, “Why? Do you want to buy one?” The Doc laughed at John’s response, but did say that he was required to ask.
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