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Can't we just stop with the sniping here? Myself, I lean libertarian, I'm more of the old Barry Goldwater type myself. I wasn't sure of any of the Repubican candidates although if Paul would want have contained Iran, he was the closest to my politics. The next closest was Romney and after that, Gary Johnson. Romney might have done some blunders we may not like but he did not hate America at all like Bronco Bama. Yeah, maybe if we stuck together and voted for Romney more, it would have turned out different. However.......

That is behind us now. None of us has access to a time machine, a flux capacitor or a Time Tunnel in out basement. It's past now and we are yelling at each other much like the Kings Men at the Kings Horses and vice versa when Humpty Dumpty was broken and cannot be fixed. I know myself, I get some flak for being more libertarian.

We need to stick together and figure something out of this mess or at least ride it out and fight it. We need to quit finger pointing, maybe after this is all said and done and we win, we will return to the original intent of our Founding Fathers with more power to the States where you have more religious ones, libertarian ones and so on. We need to quite beating each other up.

I see it this way, sad to say, many of us wish we can return to 1955 or even 1980 with our values then and what it took to win. I'm bummed things are different now but it is reality, we need to find new ways to bring people in, I'd say we need to focus more of the fiscal side and freedom side, i.e., the right to be left alone. I'm not for pandering to various groups where we give out goodies though, that's Democratic lite and if you do that, forget about it.

We need to reach out to each other, put some of our differences aside and work together.

Lastly, the possibilities of another civil war (or American Revolution II) scares me. It just seems like we are being pushed to that, before, logic and reason worked to preserve laws but that is failing us. There are four "boxes" in our system, the soapbox, the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box. The Ballot box is failing us. The Soapbox doesn't work, like a bad dog that doesn't listen, Bronco Bama and Co just keep doing what they are doing. Two down... Well, there is a jury box, that is hanging by a thread at best. The way to do it is if someone id brought up on gun charges or whatever and you're in a jury, do not vote to convict and try your best for a hung jury or better, jury nullification. If that fails, well, there's the last option, it seems like we are being pushed and provoked to it. Very dangerous, like a roll of a dice, you never know what will happen. I think we would win but there will be a lot of suffering in between plus even winning is not a given. If we lose, they will show us no mercy. If we win, I hope cooler heads will prevail and we do not put them in our version of a concentration camp. Give them a State or two and cut them loose, preferrably Hawaii and Puerto Rico, we will take the CONUS and Alaska.

In short, we can't go back to 1955 or 1980 as much as I'd like to, we cannot go back to 2008 or 2012 even, we need to focus here and now and the future. We need to quit infighting.

BTW, Melas, if you're still following this, your post after this election made me think quite a bit.