Posted on 01/12/2013 6:40:30 PM PST by kristinn
WASHINGTON — President Obama plans to push Congress to move quickly in the coming months on an ambitious overhaul of the immigration system that would include a path to citizenship for most of the 11 million illegal immigrants in the country, senior administration officials and lawmakers said last week.
Mr. Obama and Senate Democrats will propose the changes in one comprehensive bill, the officials said, resisting efforts by some Republicans to break the overhaul into smaller pieces — separately addressing young illegal immigrants, migrant farmworkers or highly skilled foreigners — which might be easier for reluctant members of their party to accept.
The president and Democrats will also oppose measures that do not allow immigrants who gain legal status to become American citizens one day, the officials said.
Even while Mr. Obama has been focused on fiscal negotiations and gun control, overhauling immigration remains a priority for him this year, White House officials said. Top officials there have been quietly working on a broad proposal. Mr. Obama and lawmakers from both parties believe that the early months of his second term offer the best prospects for passing substantial legislation on the issue.
Mr. Obama is expected to lay out his plan in the coming weeks, perhaps in his State of the Union address early next month, administration officials said. The White House will argue that its solution for illegal immigrants is not an amnesty, as many critics insist, because it would include fines, the payment of back taxes and other hurdles for illegal immigrants who would obtain legal status, the officials said.
A bipartisan group of senators has also been meeting to write a comprehensive bill, with the goal of introducing legislation as early as March and holding a vote in the Senate before August.
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“11 million illegal immigrants in the country”
LOLOLOLOL............ Try 25 to 30 million. Conservatively. Plus the rush of several million more once this insanity is official.
Sorry FRiend, it needed a minor correction.
As our Lord and Savior Jesus said, as He hung on that cross ... “Lord, it is done”
LLS
He wants to be on Mt. Rushmore.......
(1) to illegals who bought forged/faked multiple identities;
(2) to illegals who fraudulently voted in American elections;
(3) to illegals cashing US govt checks;
(4) to all illegals convicted of crimes;
(5) to illegals w/ fraudulent drivers' licenses......
(6) to illegals undermining the US ecocomy by sending money back to their homelands;
(7) to illegals affiliated with latino organizations undermining US ntl security;
(8) to illegals connected to the hatemongering "La Raza" and to "Raza Studies" that advocates killing Americans.
.............and so on and so forth.
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Former Cong Allen West should write letters to his colleagues, and to the media, emphasizing the following:
(1) decrying the agitation and intimidation tactics being used by latino groups,
(2) exposing latino groups using hatemongering for personal gain,
(3) emphasizing illegalities WRT threatening the US Congress for passage of self-serving bills, and,
(4) precpitatin investigations into fraud and intimidation upon our electoral/legislative system by hatemongering groups.
KTLA-LOS ANGELES -- A new report reveals millions of illegal immigrants are getting billions in IRS refunds, leaving many Californians asking how, why and is it true? According to the Center for Immigration Studies, in the 2010 tax year alone, undocumented workers received over $4 billion from the US govt.
As it turns out, a valid social security number isn't needed to apply for an IRS refund. "If you don't have papers in this country and you are working, you can apply for an ITIN number and then you file taxes," Luis Salazar, of Salazar Tax Services explains."If you quality for a refund, you can get money back," Salazar says.
Since illegal immigrants can't qualify for legitimate social security numbers, back in 1996 the US Treasury introduced the Individual Tax Identification Number, or ITIN. Salazar says he sees thousands of US dollars returned to his clients who are from out of the country. "You can claim your daughter, you can claim your son, you can claim your grandfather, grandmother," he explains. "You can claim your mother, you can claim your father, you can claim nephews and nieces. Almost everybody besides cousins."
And that's how the money is banked -- all through the Additional Child Tax Credit, which grants families $1,000 per dependent. That's also where the scam can come in. The people who you claim should be living in the US with you, but Salazar says that some undocumented workers claim family members living across the border. Unscrupulous tax preparers are filing fraudulent returns getting ITIN clients thousands of dollars.
One report found an undocumented worker claimed 20 relatives as dependents under a fake address and took the government for a grand total of $29,000.
Salazar Tax Services insists that every claim they file is above the board. But they also say that not everyone chooses to be money smart over greed."I give you the option, like it's not correct, but if you want to claim it's up to you becasue you're the person in charge of your taxes because you're signing it," Salazar says.
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COMMENTS Unscrupulous tax preparers are filing fraudulent returns for illegals. One illegal claimed 20 relatives as dependents under a fake address and took the US govt for a grand total of $29,000 (and that's just under a single identity). Salazar Tax Services insists that every claim they file is above board. "I give you the option, like it's not correct, but if you want to claim it's up to you because you're the person in charge of your taxes because you're signing it," Salazar says.
Luis Salazar---and all his clients filing fraudulent returns----need to be nailed in connection with this scam. Luis Salazar of Salazar Tax Services insists that every claim his firm files is above board. "I give you the option, like it's not correct, but if you want to claim it's up to you because you're the person in charge of your taxes because you're signing it," Salazar claims.
NOT SO FAST LUIS Every tax preparer is legally compelled to sign every IRS return, as well. If Salazar falsified the tax preparer's IRS entry---he is in legal hot water.
FBI TIPS PAGE https://tips.fbi.gov
This article also fails to mention that most illegals maintain multiple identities----and that they probably filed false claims for EITC under each identity.
<><>ICE's "documents and benefits fraud task force" found a common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identities for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names.
<><> Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities. And probably voted and collected US benefits under every single identity.
<><>June 26, 2010 An illegal using multiple identities was sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation. Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.
<><> Hilderberto Salinas sold state drivers' licenses issued out of the state’s Motor Vehicle Agency in NJ to illegals with multiple identities who did not have the necessary id's....among 40 people who participated in the widespread ring. "Impoverished" illegals paid $2,500 to $7,000 apiece for the licenses.
<><> July 21, 2006----NJ BERGEN RECORD---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said. The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said state police.
The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout.
After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.
All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####
<><> US Dept of the Treasury Says Illegal Aliens Collecting Billions in Tax Credits According to the US Dept of Treasury’s Inspector General, more than $4.2 billion in additional child credits were paid out in 2010 to illegal immigrants. In 2005, the pay outs totaled $924 million. This program allows low income earners to claim a $1,000 per child credit. $20 billion EITC is estimated to have been paid out to these cunning "impoverished" illegals. Most of them are collecting over and over again-----using multiple identities-----falsifying official apps---claiming children they do not have and/or falsely stating kids are back in their homelands.
REFERENCE March 8, 2012 KENNER, La. -- Kenner police arrested illegal Marvin Baca who sold false W-2 forms to another illegal immigrant for $1,500. Baca sold fraudulent W-2 forms for $1,500 to other Hispanics here illegally.
Police said that on one of the forged W-2 forms had a SS no of a person living in Virginia. Police said illegal Hispanics purchase fictitious W-2 forms and file false tax returns with the government to receive EITC refunds. Baca was charged with one count of ID theft and two counts of forgery.
You guys are really something. We just lost a major election becasue we were not united and many of our side did not even bother to show up.I see few learned anything.
No words exist in the English language to describe how evil all of these actions are. How true that absolute power corrupts absolutely. The individuals behind the scenes who put this administration into power planned all of this and will answer to God for the evil they have brought upon us.
The people behind this action care nothing about the citizens living here or the new citizens they will create. All they want is a large block of slaves to think, do, live, and fight wars as they demand. We are at the brink of total loss of freedom.
What I am saying however is that once you meet Rubio, the man, hear him speak in the same room, live, and get the feel for what he is about, it's hard not not like him. His mentor Ileana ros Lehtinen was my congress person for years and Rubio is now my Senator. I'll take him any day over many others.
Of course he many not meet the FR 100 % rule. That's always a problem for you guys.
Here’s a a quote I made over at Hot Air a few moments ago giving support to your claim about 30 million.I think you are right.
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Of course the biggest con here is how many illegals are there really?
Many say 12-20 million.Truth is few know and even fewer have done any research to figure out just how many are here.
http://thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_17_4/tsc_17_4_walsh.shtml
The above link to the “Social Contract” by James T. Walsh a brilliant immigration scholar and former govt. immigration lawyer.He asserts that the number is more like 36 million with 2 million visa overstays. Maybe a few went back home due to theobamba economy so maybe its down to only 30 million. Still a long way from the acknowledged 8-12 or 12-20 million figures commonly used.
Even worse is the multiplier effect from anchor babies. First an illegal(not one of the rocket scientists either, average intelligence of border crossers from mexico are fourth grade) comes to the us when she is 8 and 9/10 months pregnant, has here anchor baby here and who knows how many else are on the dole in no time at all.
Its all one more scary scenario about how we can lose a country without even trying in less than eight years.
rodguy911 on January 13, 2013 at 8:30 AM
Daniel 2:40 "Then there will be a fourth kingdom as strong as iron; inasmuch as iron crushes and shatters all things, so, like iron that breaks in pieces, it will crush and break all these in pieces.
Daniel 2:41 "And in that you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it will be a divided kingdom; but it will have in it the toughness of iron, inasmuch as you saw the iron mixed with common clay.
Daniel 2:42 "And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of pottery, so some of the kingdom will be strong and part of it will be brittle.
Daniel 2:43 "And in that you saw the iron mixed with common clay, they will combine with one another in the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, even as iron does not combine with pottery.
Hispanic and other immigrant populations, completely different value systems, marries Americans, but does not share the same ideals. It has already happened.
The precedent for the numbers lie is when Reagan offered amnesty for 1 million and it turned into 3 million quickly. Or, something along those lines.
I would put in a provision that states, ‘anyone who enters the US illegally, or illegally overstays their visa by more than 1 month, is fined at a rate of $100/day for every day they are in the US illegally. Thereafter, they cannot apply for citizenship unless this fine is paid before they apply. Any tax on income earned in the US that was not paid will also be due before one can apply for citizenship. Further, any evidence of record fraud would automatically preclude citizenship, forever (if you ever used a fake SS# or any other forged documents), and any assistance in record fraud by an American citizen will result in either a $100,000.00 fine or a year in jail for that person - mandatory. This is just a start.
But I see what you are saying and it could well be true.
Excellent idea. If I am not mistake Rubio is working on just such a plan. I know that one of his ideas is to stop allowing so many illegals who cross the border with a fourth grade education while giving the guys with MBA’s and Doctorates, people that we really need, a super hard time about coming in legally.Hard to tell where it will all wind up.
Headline: “Obama Will Seek Citizenship Path in One Fast Push (for most illegal aliens)”....
Does that include him (illegal alien) too?
(sarc)
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