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1 posted on 01/11/2013 12:54:34 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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Reid, you don’t get it. You will be made powerless as well.


2 posted on 01/11/2013 12:56:56 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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Well, the out-of-work-undertaker has just given reason for his own impeachment, along with The Usurper.


3 posted on 01/11/2013 12:57:37 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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The Left loves Dictatorship.


4 posted on 01/11/2013 12:58:06 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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Cool. We will get a impeachment charges and a Supreme Court ruling. Everything is a drama with Obama. Nice rhyme.
5 posted on 01/11/2013 12:59:03 PM PST by Theoria
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If Obama bypasses the Congress on the Debt Ceiling, Congress should commence impeachment proceeding immediately.
7 posted on 01/11/2013 1:00:25 PM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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Take away the debt ceiling ll together, why even have the fight? ..the president can’t borrow money by himself....congress needs to authorize new borrowing...


10 posted on 01/11/2013 1:05:02 PM PST by wny
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Reid: the representatives of the people are a non-entity. We in the House of Lords and the King shall decide all matters.


11 posted on 01/11/2013 1:05:15 PM PST by cotton1706
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The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

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To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;



-US Constitution Article 1 Section 8

....why am I bothering to post this? No one is listening....
12 posted on 01/11/2013 1:05:32 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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taxation without representation


13 posted on 01/11/2013 1:06:30 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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So Reid is speaking for the whole Congress now?

Is Reid giving Obama permission to ignore the House? On what authority, just by virtue of being a Democrat?

-PJ

15 posted on 01/11/2013 1:11:01 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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So how much does Obama need it raised to? Where is the budget confirming the numbers? What is Obama waiting for...
fairy dust?


16 posted on 01/11/2013 1:11:29 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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One step closer to a coup. More and more we are moving toward the Venezuelan model with a Maximum Leader and a ruling party that ratifies the diktat of the dictator.
17 posted on 01/11/2013 1:11:57 PM PST by Truth29
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The US no longer has any “faith and credit”. We are being run by knaves and fools.


18 posted on 01/11/2013 1:13:45 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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Who the hell died and left the weaselly little bass turd Reid in charge? Yo Dingy! For once in your low life, earn your pay and do your job. Pass a budget you maggot!


20 posted on 01/11/2013 1:15:23 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Impeach Obama Now.)
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The Roman Senate is such a perfect match for Emperor Zero.


21 posted on 01/11/2013 1:16:43 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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“In the event that Republicans make good on their threat by failing to act, or by moving unilaterally to pass a debt limit extension only as part of an unbalanced or unreasonable legislation, we believe you must be willing to take any lawful steps to ensure that America does not break its promises and trigger a global economic crisis — without congressional approval, if necessary,”

If zero does actually usurp spending authority, a breech of the Constitution is only one worry. Such an act would undoubtedly be challenged in court and would shake investor confidence. Investors would rightfully be concerned as to the legal status of any bonds issued by the US government after an unconstitutional usurpation.


22 posted on 01/11/2013 1:17:57 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; an EMP confined to DC would be much appreciated)
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Hey Nevada, represent this. I work for the emperor.

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24 posted on 01/11/2013 1:19:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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In what way can the House of Representatives force the President to do anything?

Pretty much only through the power of the purse.

If the President chooses to violate the US Constitution and attempt to use the Treasury Department as his own funding source, then this is not a separation of powers issue. This is a clear violation of the US Constitution.

The SCOTUS must rule; it must enter the fight.

But, even then, what means does the SCOTUS have to enforce their rulings? None.

The US Governmental system assumes everyone wants to uphold the Constitution. What happens when that is not the case, and especially when it’s the executive who is simply going off as a lone ranger emperor?

At that point, the only recourse is for STATES to refuse to comply and for tax-payers to refuse to participate.


27 posted on 01/11/2013 1:27:49 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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In what way can the House of Representatives force the President to do anything?

Pretty much only through the power of the purse.

If the President chooses to violate the US Constitution and attempt to use the Treasury Department as his own funding source, then this is not a separation of powers issue. This is a clear violation of the US Constitution.

The SCOTUS must rule; it must enter the fight.

But, even then, what means does the SCOTUS have to enforce their rulings? None.

The US Governmental system assumes everyone wants to uphold the Constitution. What happens when that is not the case, and especially when it’s the executive who is simply going off as a lone ranger emperor?

At that point, the only recourse if for STATES to refuse to comply and for tax-payers to refuse to participate.


28 posted on 01/11/2013 1:27:49 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Someone posted on here that it’s too early to start shooting.

I think it’s about time we start.

I bet it would sink in pretty fast if we gave them a few examples of just how powerless they are and who the boss is.


29 posted on 01/11/2013 1:28:02 PM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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