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To: gwjack

What he actually said is a lot different from what the author said he said:

“So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire...”

There is all the difference in the world between having a gun in a holster, concealed carry or not, and *brandishing* that gun, which is what the chief said.

Put yourself in that situation: For some reason, you have brandished your cc for self defense, and are standing there, holding the gun at your side, so that policemen behind you can see it.

Cops are generally not quiet, so they are screaming at you, most likely to “drop your gun!” Do you:

Turn around with your gun in your hand? Or, do you slowly set your gun down, slowly stand up with them seeing both your hands, with fingers spread apart, as you slowly turn around?

There is an old military trick that is good to use when getting police orders: repeat back to them the order they gave, in the first person, while indicating that you are carrying out their orders.

“You! Drop your gun!”

“I am setting my gun down!”

“Now slowly turn around keeping your hands visible!”

“I am now slowly turning around and keeping my hands visible!”

I know this sounds weird, but it’s surprising how quickly you get used to it, and how reassuring it is to someone who is drawing down on you.


55 posted on 01/10/2013 6:10:06 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Your post is well thought out. I think that about now, a lot of Police Chiefs and Sheriff’s are cursing the Chicago Police Chief for such a stupid statement.


86 posted on 01/10/2013 7:08:57 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I don’t think many here want to hear that kind of stuff.


104 posted on 01/10/2013 8:01:31 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Cops are generally not quiet, so they are screaming at you, most likely to “drop your gun!”

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Reminds me of the guy that was killed at the Costco in Nevada. Witnesses said several cops were yelling different orders.

“Get on the ground”
“Drop your gun”
“Turn around”

All prudent things for a cop to yell - just not all at once. Witnesses also said the gun was in a soft carrying holster - which I suppose in the rush of things may have looked like a gun to the cops when they killed.

Seems some training for the cops would be good as well as for the CC folks.


105 posted on 01/10/2013 8:09:08 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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