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To: DesertRhino

Here here again!

This is refreshing to see...people defending an unalienable right. The nationalists, even the conservative one’s, don’t know what to do with this type of reasoning. They love their little “nuances” or “penumbras” of legal theory. But as I mentioned about, secession is NOT a legal question anyway. It’s a political question.

Conservative nationalists bother me the most. First, because I used to be one until I got off the power politics bandwagon and actually learned history. Second, because the consequences of the “nationalism” they promote, just their kind of nationalism leads exactly to the oligarchy we have today. Either way, progressive or conservative nationalism leads to the same place...crushing unalienable rights.

Let me off the nationalist train please; I want nothing to do with it. It’s very ugly, dirty, backroom deal making and immoral. No thanks.

Though certainly not perfect, I’ll take my chances with a Union of sovereign States where diversity and liberty have a much better chance.


30 posted on 01/10/2013 9:06:29 AM PST by mek1959
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To: mek1959
Though certainly not perfect, I’ll take my chances with a Union of sovereign States where diversity and liberty have a much better chance.

Quotes of President Jefferson Davis

"The withdrawal of a State from a league has no revolutionary or insurrectionary characteristic. The government of the State remains unchanged as to all internal affairs. It is only its external or confederate relations that are altered. To term this action of a Sovereign a 'rebellion' is a gross abuse of language."

"Obstacles may retard, but they cannot long prevent the progress of a movement sanctified by its justice, and sustained by a virtuous people ."

"Secession belongs to a different class of remedies. It is to be justified upon the basis that the States are Sovereign. There was a time when none denied it. I hope the time may come again, when a better comprehension of the theory of our Government, and the inalienable rights of the people of the States, will prevent any one from denying that each State is a Sovereign, and thus may reclaim the grants which it has made to any agent whomsoever."

"The contest is not over, the strife is not ended. It has only entered upon a new and enlarged arena." Jefferson Davis, address to the Mississippi legislature - 16 years after the wars end.

"The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form."

Were here Mr. Davis....

68 posted on 01/10/2013 8:32:30 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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