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To: PizzaDriver
The concept that a National Agency to oversee ALL firearm transactions, and approve or deny each transaction is just short sighted and wrong.

And unenforceable...

Case in point,


Today: My buddy Joe comes over, we start talking guns, I mention that I've been wanting to thin out my collection and plan to sell "X", he says he will give me $500 for "X", he hands me the cash, I give him the gun case closed.

How "universal registration" is suppose to work : My buddy Joe comes over, we start talking guns, I mention that I've been wanting to thin out my collection and plan to sell "X", he says he will give me $500 for "X". We drive to the local firearm dealer and both fill out a lot of forms, have a background check run on Joe (paying whatever that costs, I'm guessing the firearms dealers aren't going to do all this for free). Then we wait weeks or months for the transfer to be granted...

What will really happen under "universal registration" - My buddy Joe comes over, we start talking guns, I mention that I've been wanting to thin out my collection and plan to sell "X", he says he will give me $500 for "X". But he wants the gun now and I want the money now and neither of us wants to fool with all the paperwork. So he pays in cash and I backdate a receipt before "universal registration" just in case we ever get any heat for it.

13 posted on 01/08/2013 8:29:10 AM PST by apillar
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To: apillar

That’s assuming you are in compliance with unconstitutional gun laws to begin with. Most won’t comply on currently owned weapons.


15 posted on 01/08/2013 8:35:13 AM PST by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: apillar

How about this scenario, you want an extra Magazine or Clip for practice time, you turn on your 3d printer and print an extra two (or the parts which just snap together) with no paperwork at all.


21 posted on 01/08/2013 8:45:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: apillar
“How “universal registration” is suppose to work : My buddy Joe comes over, we start talking guns, I mention that I've been wanting to thin out my collection and plan to sell “X”, he says he will give me $500 for “X”. We drive to the local firearm dealer and both fill out a lot of forms, have a background check run on Joe (paying whatever that costs, I'm guessing the firearms dealers aren't going to do all this for free). Then we wait weeks or months for the transfer to be granted...”

Bronco Bamma will find out real quick that any Federal law that requires that will cost the government $$$ Billions every year.

The Fed is restricted by ‘Takings’ law that requires them to pay for whatever they take from someone at fair market value. If they want to require a dealer do the transfer, they will have to pay for it.

27 posted on 01/08/2013 9:19:13 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: apillar
Today: My buddy Joe comes over, we start talking guns, I mention that I've been wanting to thin out my collection and plan to sell "X", he says he will give me $500 for "X", he hands me the cash, I give him the gun case closed.

In Massachusetts, that item X would have been registered in your name. If your friend is caught with it...as an unregistered firearm...he gets a year in jail. Mandatory.

You could sell him X for whatever reason you like but the actual transfer and paperwork required by MA would need to be done by an FFL. No one would risk conviction by having an unregistered firearm in this state. I can't wait to leave. Unless this type of thing becomes the norm all over the country.

36 posted on 01/08/2013 10:50:47 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Humans have eliminated natural selection. Morons are now a protected species. They breed and vote.)
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To: apillar
Correction:

Transfer and paperwork required by MA would NOT need to be done by an FFL. There is a form FA-10 that is required for such a sale that effectively transfers the registration and is recorded by the Firearms Records Bureau .

38 posted on 01/08/2013 11:11:11 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Humans have eliminated natural selection. Morons are now a protected species. They breed and vote.)
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To: apillar
What will really happen under "universal registration" - My buddy Joe comes over, we start talking guns, I mention that I've been wanting to thin out my collection and plan to sell "X", he says he will give me $500 for "X". But he wants the gun now and I want the money now and neither of us wants to fool with all the paperwork. So he pays in cash and I backdate a receipt before "universal registration" just in case we ever get any heat for it.

In other words, the same process as during the previous ban.

46 posted on 01/08/2013 4:46:20 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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