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1 posted on 01/08/2013 5:51:05 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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Do we not have ANY military leaders we can trust, who understand this nation and it’s founding, who will defend it’s people from it’s politicians? These guys have all gone politically correct on us and when things get bad are not going to chose our side.


26 posted on 01/08/2013 6:08:13 AM PST by ryan71 (Water, food and ammo.)
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Oath of Commissioned Officers

I, _____, having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)


Article [II]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

27 posted on 01/08/2013 6:09:11 AM PST by Bratch
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Many military/LEO are against the people bearing arms as long as they have theirs. It’s a power thing. They can all f*** themselves.


28 posted on 01/08/2013 6:09:42 AM PST by GnL
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The General is poster child for why each of us needs a combat rifle.

He is the kind of puke who would follow an illegal order to fire upon the citizens of this country.

30 posted on 01/08/2013 6:13:44 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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"Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal backed banning assault weapons on Tuesday, saying guns like the M4 and M16 belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets."

It was either that or this:


31 posted on 01/08/2013 6:14:45 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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I agree. I was walking down the street the other day and kept tripping over M4s, AK-47s, AR-15s. They’re everywhere!

Get these weapons off the streets...now!


32 posted on 01/08/2013 6:16:18 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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It is important to remember that, once an officer gets past the rank of LTC, possibly once he gets past the rank of Captain, he is more a politician than a soldier.

McChrystal is no longer a soldier but a politician and will say or do anything to advance his position within this Administration.


34 posted on 01/08/2013 6:16:18 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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If even a 4-star general is this ignorant of firearms it is no wonder that ended up in a quagmire. To wit:

The M4 and M16 are selective-fire weapons and are severely restricted on the civilian market, subject to licensing and taxes. When available at all they command 5-figure price tags. They are NOT readily available to criminals and are NOT comparable to civilian AR15 firearms.

None of the "massacres" of late were committed with M4s or M16, or with any other automatic weapons, for that matter. In every case, the crimes were carried out with civilian weapons.

If he thinks the ballistics of the 5.56 are frightening he should read up on the ballistics of commercial hunting cartridges like the 7mm Remington Magnum. But he might have nightmares afterwards so perhaps he shouldn't.

Where do we find these candyass "soldiers"?

35 posted on 01/08/2013 6:22:25 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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I don’t know about anybody else, but I am already sick of seeing this pos all over my TV.


37 posted on 01/08/2013 6:22:35 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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2Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal backed banning assault weapons on Tuesday, saying guns like the M4 and M16 belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets.

As you were, General. There are very few M4's and M16's in the hands of civilians. If they are, they are pre-1986 BATF tax-stamped.

39 posted on 01/08/2013 6:23:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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"I personally don’t think there’s any need for that kind of weaponry..."

Then you haven't been listening to some Democrats who want to take our 401Ks!!!

40 posted on 01/08/2013 6:23:51 AM PST by avacado
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When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating.

When David Petraeus took a 5.56mm round through the chest, he was up jogging again two days later.

Attackers in Mogadishu had to be shot several times to stop them.

Hardly what I would call devastating.

That's why I don't own anything that shoots 5.56mm.

41 posted on 01/08/2013 6:23:58 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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"I think we have to look at this legislation,” McChrystal said. “The number of people killed by firearms is extraordinary compared to other nations."

And yet, the violence rate is more severe in other nations.

Why is it that liberals and gun grabbers think that death by firearm is worse than death by brutal beating with an iron pipe?

43 posted on 01/08/2013 6:25:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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“And a M4 carbine fires a .223 caliber round, which is 5.56 millimeters, at about 3,000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It’s designed to do that. That’s what our soldiers ought to carry.”

McChrystal has become quite the little propagandist.

A typical 300 win mag round or 12 gage shotgun slug will generate over three times the muzzle energy of the fearsome M4 and a Taylor KO (knock out) factor of ten times greater than the 5.56 nato round. The 41 mag generates a Taylor KO factor of three times the M4.

I’m guessing pretty much all shotguns, rifles and handguns really don’t need to be in the hands of civilians. After all, they’re just too devastating.


44 posted on 01/08/2013 6:28:12 AM PST by bereanway
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Loved him in City Slickers.


45 posted on 01/08/2013 6:30:23 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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“And a M4 carbine fires a .223 caliber round, which is 5.56 millimeters, at about 3,000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It’s designed to do that. That’s what our soldiers ought to carry.”

This guy is a pure moron.

.223 is devastating, as opposed to all the others? Please.

46 posted on 01/08/2013 6:31:46 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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It is obvious that the 2nd Amendment prevents the government from infringing on the pre-existing right of individuals to own military type small arms. Federal court rulings support exactly this view. Has McCrystal read the Constitution?

Lessons the Founders gained from the Revolutionary War included the idea that ad hoc, untrained, ill-armed militias were unreliable and ineffective at fighting a conventional war, as then understood. The 2nd A’s enigmatic words “well-regulated” did not imply “government micromanagement” in the modern sense of “EPA regulations” (a concept that did not exist then). They address the need for militia to be armed with “regulation” weapons (i.e., the same as REGULAR army), and to have “regulation” training in their use, so that units could fight cohesively and predictably. Other provisions of the Constitution require Congress to provide for arming and training the militia — a duty they manifestly fail to perform (our tiny National Guard is obviously not the militia). Interesting how the Founders trusted the People more than the very government that they, themselves, were creating. Do McCrystal, Obama, Finestein, et al., trust the People?


48 posted on 01/08/2013 6:33:51 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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He had me until he opened his mouth.


50 posted on 01/08/2013 6:38:28 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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Come on Stan! I always thought you were a smart Flag Officer. You just blew your cover. Go into retirement somewhere and shut up you moron!


55 posted on 01/08/2013 6:45:29 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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Watched the interview on Hannity last night in horror. He not only voted for Bam in ‘08 but obviously did in ‘12 too..by his refusal to say whom he supported.
Every time he spoke about the Kenyan Marxist, it was with deference and respect.
What a doofus...liked his wife way better than him.
And why do these former military and other “wronged” disgraced public figures inevitably feel the need to profit from a stupid book? I wouldn’t buy it if it was a penny.


56 posted on 01/08/2013 6:47:38 AM PST by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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