McChrystal backs gun restrictions

politico.com ^ | January 8, 2013 | KEVIN ROBILLARD

[Getsmart64]

I am so sick of hearing this line of BS. You are incorrect using a blanket statement.

Ever hear of a little storm called Katrina? I didn't see very many, if any at all, rank and file police members defy superiors orders in confiscating weapons from homeowners. His blanket statement does have some merit.

[Quickgun]

I see it happening. Other than a few, most boys aren’t going to shoot at Mom or Dad. I have 2 nephews that would leave the military in a heartbeat to protect their families. Most soldiers are children of the Patriots, the libs don’t like the military, and don’t encourage their children to go. Only a few that have some kind of immediate gain to be made by siding with the politics of the current administration do this. And,only those very few that do are given time by the corrupt media.

[Resolute Conservative]

Having been to NO several times before Katrina I can safely say that a blanket statement does cover that town and probably Chicago, Boston, and NY PD’s. Good thing is they have no jurisdiction in red areas so I don’t care. Elections, especially on a local level, have implications, but look at the electorate in those areas, they vote blue and union.

[CSM]

Yet I am supposed to believe that our military members “would never take action against the citizenry, they are a patriotic bunch,” while a General doesn’t understand the 2nd Ammendment....

[freeandfreezing]

The General misses one key point - citizens have the right and obligation to defend themselves and those around them from exactly the same threats that law enforcement officers and the military do. And therefore whatever weapons law enforcement officers feel are necessary to do their job are exactly the same weapons that citizens need to defend themselves. After all, citizens defending themselves have to do so without the advantages of notice, reinforcements, etc. that the law enforcement or military members have.

If the world changes in such a way that our military and law enforcement members no longer feel the need to have semiautomatic firearms, or the various rifles they use, and they decide to scrap them all in favor of say, muskets, then the rest of us can consider doing the same. But as long as criminals, terrorists, and the just plain evil or crazy exist I'm pretty sure we won't see our military or law enforcement members voluntarily disarming.

And we've already seen more than one instance where a firearm owned or used by a law enforcement official ends up involved with gun violence, so those officially owned weapons contribute to the supposed danger caused by the "availability" of guns.

Whatever new regulations, if any, for firearms are passed into law should apply to everyone, with no exceptions for the government.

[GnL]

I hope you are right.

[cizinec]

“And while I think they would probably not want to assist any gun confiscation efforts, if it were presented to them as cracking down on racist, homophobic, extreme right-wing Christian conservatives, in a militia or Klan-type group, I could see them doing it happily.”

My brother is a strong religious conservative, bent on ensuring no one has access to “sin.” I love my brother, but he would happily turn on 2nd Ammendment rights to get a perfect and holy government, since you shouldn’t be able to protect yourself from a “holy” government saving society by saving you from yourself. Just about everyone in his church has the same definition of “freedom.”

I’m not a Paultard and have corrected quite a few this past week who made some retarded statements about a (completely justified) police shooting. However, these folks don’t want the government in almost anything. Any statement to the contrary ignores facts to set up a straw man argument to defeat those who would agree with you on this issue. Not very smart on your part.

Believing that all or even most religous “conservatives” are going to stand with you on the 2nd Ammendment is just stupid and ignores both the rhetoric coming from many churches and history.

As for the great Puritan General, soldiers have differing opinions of him. Denying things to others is a particular penchant of his.

As for soldiers, you’re unlikely to find a consensus in the military any more than you are in the public in general. However, the military tends to be much more conservative and I doubt many will enforce a law they either would not abide by themselves or that would cause their own families to go to prison.

[KeyLargo]

Compare and Contrast: A tale of two home invasions… one resident armed, the other unarmed

http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=4473

[KeyLargo]

Jon Krakauer: McChrystal’s Explanation For Pat Tillman Cover-up Is “Preposterous”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/01/jon-krakauer-mcchrystals_n_341545.html

[grb]

I am willing to bet he has one at home

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***“And a M4 carbine fires a .223 caliber round, which is 5.56 millimeters, at about 3,000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It’s designed to do that.****

The .223 is nothing more than the old .222 Remington Special varmint rifle cartridge.

In terms of power it is more powerful than the .222 Remington, equal to the .222 Remington Spl, and less powerful than the .222 Rem Mag, all varmint rifle cartridges.

The news media has turned a Viet Nam era “mouse gun” into a super bad knockem-down-stomp-em-and-turn-them-inside-out cartridge.

[LouD]

Not really important, since the main use of full automatic fire is burning up ammo at the end of the fiscal year.

[Lazamataz]

Jehovas Witness neighbor did me a favor recently, so I felt obligated to politely sit through his spiel. One thing I found out was that guns are frowned on in the JW. No guns for me, no guns for thee. I told him that was a deal breaker for me, and politely excused myself.

[Kickass Conservative]

>”You can’t buy the M4 or M16, only semi-automatic imitations”<

New math.

1. Looks like = IS...

2. Black Gun = BAD...

3. Black President = GOOD...

[Trailerpark Badass]

Well, I'm Catholic, so I'm under no illusions about "Christians" being monolithic in any regard.

And I in no way desire any kind of Christian/Catholic theocracy.

State-run religion/spirituality gets the same quality of result as state-run anything (see the Church of England), and besides, the existing state religion of radical secular humanism (of the kind supported by Paul people) is busy securing its dominance.

I think you presume way too much about me and what I believe.

[Pentagon Leatherneck]

"Sadly, this is the opinion of a lot of senior military, probably more the rule than the exception." Mine too, Joe. Most GO/Flags are nervous nellies about the troops having guns on base and even in government housing off-base. I've never really understood that. TC

[Perdogg]

Actually they evaluated the 6.8mm SPC and 6.5mm Grendel.

[Carl Vehse]

Obadiah @4:"Then McChrystal is a traitor to the Constitution and to America."

And McChrystal is not a traitor to the United States because of what you or might say, but because McChrystal said it himself.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Tailgunner Joe. Speaking of tonedeaf:

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