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To: Gritty
Really? Then how do you propose to ever use them, even in "legitimate" self defense? Doing so and getting discovered would immediately make you a criminal in the eyes of the state. One will be looking at major felony time, multiple felonies if you own multiple weapons or large cap mags. Don't think for a second such draconian penalties won't be applied in any new gun control/confiscation laws if passed. They will gladly lock you up and throw away the key on your troublemaker's body!

Maybe you haven't thought this through, quite.

"Major felony time" would mean the rest of my life in prison--no hope of getting out alive. I'm a great grandpa, but if you're younger, what makes you think you would either--I don't care if you're twenty five.

"Prison" would be the equivalent of reeducation/extermination camps, if you recall Obama's mentor Bill Ayres saying they'd probably have to "eliminate about 25 million" people who could not be reeducated.

Nope.

That dog won't hunt.

I would rather die a free man than be a prisoner for the rest of my life.

If the fools push it that far, I'll use them resisting tyranny.

We're not in a situation where we can just hope they'll go away, any more than the old model of just behaving yourself if the plane is hijacked is going to get you home alive.

If the issue is pushed, we're going to have to fight with every fiber of our being, we, too, will have to pledge our lives, fortunes, and sacred honor....or we'll be dead anyway or slaves.

49 posted on 01/08/2013 3:36:11 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Maybe you haven't thought this through, quite.

Actually, as a grandfather myself, I have thought it through and I do not like what I see.

My major point is once guns are made illegal and a major felony, millions of good, honest, patriotic American citizens will become newly minted criminals because they won't comply. At that point, they become prey of the law and unknown informers who may be former friends, neighbors, relatives, or whomever is looking for government favor or is on their side.

It will be hard to passively hide with formerly unknown weapons if they think you have them and come to collect them. The SWAT teams will smash down your door and ruin your house in a destructive search if they even suspect you have contraband (look at the WOD). And like the WOD, because you have illegal contraband, your home and assets are up for forfeiture. You may end up in jail and your now penniless family may end up on the street. Remember, with the Obamacare precedent, the government now has direct access to your bank accounts as well.

With your general comments, I can't argue. It is a nasty choice facing all of us if they get their way and pass these draconian and unConstitutional laws in almost any form. There is hardly a thing they lust to do that is anything but pure bad.

This will not be the America you and I grew up with and love and know.

53 posted on 01/08/2013 6:06:31 PM PST by Gritty (Local Russians shouldn't compare our Democrat Party with communism.ItÂ’s absurd.-D Savino (D-NYSenat)
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