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Ramsey County Elections Manager Mansky Hides Election Records
youtube ^ | 1/3/13 | mnmajoritydotorg

Posted on 01/06/2013 9:15:54 PM PST by Nachum

In this January 3rd, 2013 edition of Majority Report, Sue Jeffers and Dan McGrath discuss Ramsey County Election Manager Joe Mansky's recent refusal to provide public access to 2012 election records, even though he has made them available for previous elections and they are vital to detect and prove voter fraud. Watch the video and call Joe Mansky at 651-266-2171 to demand transparency in our election system.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: county; elections; manager; ramsey
Vid at link
1 posted on 01/06/2013 9:16:05 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

It should be noted this is Ramsey County Minnesota.


2 posted on 01/06/2013 9:21:57 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Nachum

Santa Claus always needs some “home” help.


3 posted on 01/06/2013 10:08:27 PM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: Nachum
Interesting; thanks Nachum. What's even more interesting is that I live in Ramsey County, MN and the first I've heard of this is here on FR.

If there's any silver lining in this, it's that one particular arrogant Ramsey County commissioner who richly deserved to lose his job didn't even make it past the primary this year.

In a political culture where the incumbent for some reason gets re-elected no matter what they've done or not done, his loss really reinvigorated my belief in the electoral system, at least on the local level. On a personal level, it warmed my heart.

4 posted on 01/06/2013 10:56:30 PM PST by Ackackadack
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To: Nachum
Encouraging story Nachum. Unfortunately, while it sounds as if the group in Minnesota is uncovering voter fraud, and thus helping to point out that all this talk about the will of the people is unprovable, and probably, untrue, there are still fundamental problems with even the ballot counting presumably being done in Ramsay County. As Stalin pointed out, it is he who counts the votes who determines the policies of a representative government (I think Stalin said “Democracy”, but haven't gone searching for the quotation). Who counts the votes in Ramsay county? Who counts the absentee ballots in Ramsay county? Who counts the votes in almost every county in the US? The votes are counted, in most precincts, by employees of the Secretaries of State of each state. These are mostly SEIU employees. Does anyone believe these employees to honestly count votes, or to reveal that there is no counting at all, when honesty could cost them their jobs, their pensions, even the put their themselves and families at risk for physical retribution?

We have a fatally flawed voting system broken, as system designers say, at the front end. Once “secret” selections are made, and evidence of those selections disappears from the oversight of observers and counters selected from all parties, the data have no association with an eligible voter. It used to be the precinct workers, workers who live in the precinct for which they volunteer, that insured the integrity of our voting systems. Computers can not be made transparent, or unbiased. As a designer of such systems, and having read thesis and papers proposing computer solutions for decades, I can tell you the problem hasn't been solved. I suspect that it cannot be because of that missing link, a trustworthy human doing the counting. The count done by volunteers, overseen by other volunteers, needs to be the official count. Recounts cannot be made accurate. There is no audit trail.

At least the group in Ramsay county has a chance to turn up irregularities, bringing some attention to the problem. Alan West got different answers everytime he challenged the election officials in his district. I suspect he ran out of resources. He could never have proved that he won, nor could they prove the other guy won. The data are corrupted by design, by not having an audit trail. It is like doing contamination analysis without knowing anything about the samples, or counting background radiation without knowing the background. Voting systems today are a terrible joke on a supposed electorate. The pundits analyze and analyze without ever questioning the data they are analyzing. Any statistician will tell you that data integrity is where you must begin. Politicians have found that it is easy to use Alinsky’s 5th rule, the power of ridicule, to silence anyone who raises the the issue of voting fraud, just as ridicule has been remarkably effective in silencing questions about presidential eligibility. Limbaugh's point about low-information voters was well taken, even if he too was afraid to get too close to the issue. (He was probably correct in that given that most citizens had accepted that natural born citizen not having been defined in The Constitution meant that it was an undefined term, none of them obviously realizing that the Constitution does not, intentionally, contain definitions of terms, pointing readers to the common-law and language familiar to its framers>.

There are so many holes in the integrity of our voting systems that if one hole is plugged, there are dozens more. Remember where Obama worked before running for office in Illinois, Project Vote, a Soros-funded spin-out of Acorn. Why do you think Soros spawned the Secretaries of State project? There is no way Republicans couldn't have known about the fraud permeating our system. Republicans are currently prevented from even observing at precincts were there might be some question of racial persuasion, a result of a corrupt Democrat judge who granted a restraining order from the bench, and comes out of retirement each year to renew his bench order. Whether there is or isn't collusion to persuade citizens that voting still means something, voting today is absolutely without an audit trail, and thus cannot be trusted to represent the will of an electorate. It can only be trusted to represent the will of those who count the votes, and we know that they work for the SEIU.

5 posted on 01/07/2013 1:31:12 AM PST by Spaulding
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You might enjoy a list of Obama Voter Fraud I have been collecting. Just FYI.

http://www.nachumlist.com/obamavoter.htm


6 posted on 01/07/2013 7:25:10 AM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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