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To: sickoflibs; Kaslin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
Why not tie the debt ceiling to a budget, and other spending bills?

whats the point ??? the PR will mount that the 'R's are being obstructionists, nevermind the lack of a budget from the sinate for 3 yrs...

almost better at this point to get one of those cardboard publishers clearinghouse checks, march up onto the capitol steps, and present the signed, blank check to bambam and proclaim that from this day *forward*, its his baby to do what he wants...let it crash and burn 100% on him...

anything else is going to be a repeated losing game in the media, and just pisses *us* off over and over...

45 posted on 01/05/2013 10:22:17 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3
RE :”whats the point ??? the PR will mount that the ‘R's are being obstructionists, nevermind the lack of a budget from the sinate for 3 yrs...,
anything else is going to be a repeated losing game in the media, and just pisses *us* off over and over.”

But I thought the whole idea was to get House Rs to be the ‘obstructionists’. So afterward when we claim the the media made Rs look like ‘obstructionists’ it sounds kind of lame.
This is the problem. If being painted ‘obstructionists’ is bad then from the start the goal should be to paint the other side as it while doing it, not afterward when its too late (then complain about the media again). Dems know this.

I have heard a few Dems actually complain that they are worried that Democrats might get a bad deal from the debt limit fight. Not saying my hopes are up though.

48 posted on 01/05/2013 11:47:31 AM PST by sickoflibs (Fight like Dems, fight to win !)
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To: Gilbo_3; Kaslin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; NFHale; Impy
RE :”almost better at this point to get one of those cardboard publishers clearinghouse checks, march up onto the capitol steps, and present the signed, blank check to bambam and proclaim that from this day *forward*, its his baby to do what he wants...let it crash and burn 100% on him.”

They could have simply made Pelosi Speaker on Thursday with their votes, announce that Dems won, then vote against everything she puts up since they have the majority. (but occasionally there would be defectors)

That would have been the best way to make such a cynical play. Gets rid of Bohner too. But this is just more dreaming.

59 posted on 01/05/2013 8:14:31 PM PST by sickoflibs (Fight like Dems, fight to win !)
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