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To: Longbow1969
Alas, it will be a long road to change it back, and not an easy one. This is primarily a culture issue, and we have shown we don't know how to fight that way in the long term.

I'm not ready to give up, it's too important, I just don't see an answer yet.

Prayer. Deep thinking. Tactical changes. New leadership from the right people.

We'll see.

42 posted on 01/05/2013 9:46:46 AM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark
This is primarily a culture issue, and we have shown we don't know how to fight that way in the long term.

Yes, culture is a part of the equation, but I am not sure it is necessarily the primary factor. Socialism is like a drug that infects and poisons populations that fall for it. It's an easy sell for politicians, running as Santa Claus always is. Even many culturally conservative populations in South America, parts of Asia, etc, have fallen under the spell of socialism and wrecked their economies. Don't forget, FDR won 4 times (3 times before our entry into the war) running on radical, far left populist policies that Obama could only dream of. Take a look at FDR's proposed second bill of rights of 1944 which was pure socialism - and a much more socially conservative public than we have now approved of him and his economic ideas.

The problem is, starting at the federal level, the constitution simply does not do enough to prevent socialism. One day when our society collapses and the good guys are around to rebuild, the new constitution will need to very, very, very specifically write out any opportunity for socialism to creep in. If the states want to try socialist experiments, fine (they have to compete with one another), but it can not be allowed to happen at the federal level.

47 posted on 01/05/2013 10:50:39 AM PST by Longbow1969
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