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1 posted on 01/05/2013 5:50:25 AM PST by Moseley
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When, when, when will the still-rational-left (if there are any remaining) see the overreach. I have been waiting for 4 years for someone over there to realize what is going on.


2 posted on 01/05/2013 5:54:22 AM PST by MustKnowHistory
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When not one member of the US Congress cares about the
Constitution, then it functionally does not even exist.


3 posted on 01/05/2013 5:55:28 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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Barrys popularity will be going down soon. When the kids see their paychecks go down and bunches of them get layed off ratings will drop like a rock. If Barry goes too far impeachment can be started. An egomaniac would do lots of damage to his party strong arming his won party to defend against impeachment.


7 posted on 01/05/2013 6:07:02 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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The debt ceiling is the last leverage that Republicans have to prevent out-of-control Federal spending and on various policy issues.

Good news: We have a chance!

Bad news: House Republicans have no guts.

10 posted on 01/05/2013 6:10:57 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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11 posted on 01/05/2013 6:14:29 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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If Obama borrows money without the permission of the people, then the people should feel no obligation to pay it back.


12 posted on 01/05/2013 6:16:45 AM PST by cotton1706
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Last week I was telling folks, before the GOP caved on that vote::What’s the difference between a House GOP and the Anti-Christ?
the Anti Christ has “666” on forehead
the house GOP has “I caved”
It’s like Al-Jazerra buying Algores Current TV network: Net difference=Zero!
Freegards
LEX


13 posted on 01/05/2013 6:18:00 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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I just stated this on another thread. The left thinks they can cause chaos and then control it. Does that idiot Obama think he can get away with "suspending" the constitution?

IF the big O thinks that he will consolidate power after suspending (got to laugh) the constitution, he will only invite the age of the strongman, regardless of the results.

14 posted on 01/05/2013 6:18:59 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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We have to force The Kenyan to breech the Constitution. I think he would do it without much provocation, such as a short government shutdown. GOP Congressional leaders need to have war-gamed the whole scenario out. They need to look into appropriations bills for debt payments, military and essential services. GOP leadership also needs to have a chat with top military brass and remind them of their Constitutional oath. In the meantime, the GOP should put out their very best Constitutional experts and explain to the public that zero is assuming unconstitutional and dictatorial powers and that henceforth, any spending or legal actions by the executive have no basis in law, and citizens would be under no legal obligation to follow them.
It looks like we need to have a coup. If zero gets away with this one, why wouldn’t he just start outright arresting all political opponents, elected and non-elected.


19 posted on 01/05/2013 6:30:50 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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The US Constitution is now a quaint old piece of parchment relegated to viewing through thick glass by elementary school kids on their way to the IMAX theater to receive their instructions from Dear Leader.


21 posted on 01/05/2013 6:34:20 AM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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This ‘issue’ isn’t complex at all.

Simply remove the term “debt ceiling” from your mind.... The Congress needs to just ....NOT SPEND THE DAMN MONEY!

Balance the budget!


22 posted on 01/05/2013 6:38:54 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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Just don’t send him any more spending bills. the House is as complicit as the Senate and the POTUS.


28 posted on 01/05/2013 6:48:38 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

The operative words being AUTHORIZED BY LAW. The authorized debt is currently 16 trillion. I don't see how they get past that little caveat.

29 posted on 01/05/2013 6:48:43 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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Suspend the Constitution? I thought Roberts did that with his Obamacare ruling.


30 posted on 01/05/2013 6:49:03 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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Politico reports that Nancy Pelosi and Bill Clinton are pushing this theory:

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/democrats-keep-constitution-on-the-table-85792.html?hp=l1
31 posted on 01/05/2013 6:49:36 AM PST by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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He said he wasn’t going to debate the debt ceiling,wonder if he can bypas congress and the constitution ?.


32 posted on 01/05/2013 6:52:56 AM PST by Vaduz
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“When in the course . . . “


42 posted on 01/05/2013 7:12:04 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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Where is this ceiling every ones’s talking about?

Call me a skeptic, but I don’t believe it even exists.


43 posted on 01/05/2013 7:16:26 AM PST by Morris70
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Obama is a communist pos dictator like Chavez. Should be impeached.

We must secede.


44 posted on 01/05/2013 7:16:43 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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plan needs to be, if barky ignores the debt ceiling, then the house needs to refuse to pass any appropriations at all this year, shutting the entire government down, stick to it and mean it. the government is funded one year at a time, so when funding runs out, that’s it.


45 posted on 01/05/2013 7:21:24 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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