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Getting the 60 Percent Married - Renewing marriage in Middle America
National Review Online ^ | January 3, 2013 | An NRO Interview

Posted on 01/03/2013 6:58:49 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 01/03/2013 6:58:55 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

In today’s legal environment, a wariness of marriage is only sane risk management.

P. S., I’m long term happily married, myself. But, I know many who tried but didn’t manage that.


2 posted on 01/03/2013 7:04:21 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: neverdem
A huge part of the problem in this country is that billions of dollars are taken from potential productive use and put into things like figuring out how govt should mess with marriage.

I bet every name mentioned in this story makes mid-six figures.

3 posted on 01/03/2013 7:23:30 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: neverdem

“Almost 60 percent of Americans have a high-school degree but not a college degree.”

Wait a minute. So he’s saying that 40% of Americans have a college degree? So, to allow for dropouts, 50% or so of the high school kids graduating this year are going to college?

We’d have to have half as many colleges as we do high schools?

Something sounds wrong with that number.


4 posted on 01/03/2013 7:45:46 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: neverdem

I just found a site that takes you to census results and it says that 30% have a degree. That’s more believable, but even it seems a little high.


5 posted on 01/03/2013 7:50:02 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Especially for males. I’m in the same situation as you, but have seen here and in other forums what decades of radical feminism have done to the family court system, and what that does to divorced males, who are treated extremely poorly by that system.


6 posted on 01/03/2013 7:53:09 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: neverdem
Why would anyone want to marry a woman when they can stay single and live with her and she can collect all those benefits from the hard working taxpayers of America.

Democrat policy promotes the broken family. We don't penalize sperm donor dads and we give housing and food benefits to unwed mothers.

7 posted on 01/03/2013 8:13:45 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: neverdem
The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free food stamps ever.

Meanwhile, The National Parks Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals.

Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.

This ends todays lesson.

8 posted on 01/03/2013 8:20:54 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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I know way too many guys who believe in this. It breaks my heart as someone who wants to get married one day and have kids.


9 posted on 01/03/2013 8:42:54 PM PST by Txngal
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To: neverdem

They could start with Honey Boo Boo’s parents...but then again, she might lose her benefits from the other three illegitimate kids she’s had with three other men, not to mention her grandchild. TLC’s hit show has been a real eye-opener for me about the real America, and I fear it is too late to bring back the desirability of marriage, church-affiliation, and the “shame” of being on the dole.


10 posted on 01/03/2013 8:54:13 PM PST by MHT
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To: Txngal

Strong, stable families tend to inculcate the kind of behaviours that preclude the need for an ubiquitous Nanny State; thus, the family is an enemy of the statist thugocracy.


11 posted on 01/03/2013 8:57:39 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Txngal

Tell me about it. My daughter is a single mom, an intelligent, beautiful, wonderful girl, who made the mistake of trusting a poster boy for the modern disfunctional male. It was hard enough to absorb the shock of the shattered dreams of fairy tales and princesses, but we thought at least that afterward there would be some good guy come along, with a big heart and the cleverness to see what a good life partner she would make. And we are still waiting. Where are all the decent young men that would have swarmed around her in my generation?

Sometimes I think its just Illinois. Do you thnk it would be any better in Texas? North Dakota? Guam? We do sometimes think of moving for the kids’ sake. But ultimately we are confident God can help us wherever we are. But the waiting is hard.


12 posted on 01/03/2013 9:57:45 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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Sadly, the kids today, especially the guys, don’t want to get married and have a family...too much work. Even the girls only want t.heir I Phones and other techie stuff. I don’t even know any teenagers that DATE!!!! It’s NOT a good sign for our country.


13 posted on 01/04/2013 2:18:06 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Sadly, the kids today, especially the guys, don’t want to get married and have a family...too much work. Even the girls only want t.heir I Phones and other techie stuff. I don’t even know any teenagers that DATE!!!! It’s NOT a good sign for our country.


14 posted on 01/04/2013 2:18:06 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: Txngal

i am one of the guys that believes in this! too darn risky to get married look at what the courts have done! i am sure you are a good person but too many women out there are not


15 posted on 01/04/2013 2:31:08 AM PST by kevman (happily intolerant of things i will not tolerate!)
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I have been married for 25 years, I have some young guys that work for me-—a few in the northeast and a few at an office in the south. On Monday mornings I hear them discuss their weekends.....

I hate to say it, but if 50% of what they say is true, then young women sure have changed over the years. It would appear to me that in the northeast the women are beyond easy and the men are happy to go along with it.

Interstingly, I have an office in the south as well, and I do not hear that from the guys in the office as much as I do in the north east. I assume that is in large part a result of the upbringing of the women-—and father’s like me who have guns.


16 posted on 01/04/2013 2:33:38 AM PST by pkmaine
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To: Springfield Reformer

Sounds like your daughter needs to find herself a good old country boy.


17 posted on 01/04/2013 3:39:44 AM PST by Big Giant Head
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To: Springfield Reformer

“Where are all the decent young men that would have swarmed around her in my generation?”

Keep in mind that you did ask.

For millions of us guys, we see a country where women basically own men, if they choose, when it comes to marriage, and we don’t like it. We’ve seen our friends get burned, everyone of us, and we take the steps needed to minimize the chance of us getting burned. In some case, we simply refuse to marry, or not have kids (to the extent we can), knowing that our ‘women’ will stay with us anyway, out of their own insecurity and because they always think they can change us.

In other cases, we marry immigrants or foreigners, where the value system has not been trashed like it has here. That was my answer (and, obviously, the same for millions of others). For example my wife has a boatload of sisters, all married, none ever divorced, for decades now. The first one to jump ship is the outcast. In the American system, that doesn’t happen - the first thing a woman hears from her friends and family if she has a little spat with hubby is “hire a lawyer and clean him out”.

Obviously I’m generalizing, but my point is that your daughter pays the price of American feminism. I tell my kids, at least the boys, to never marry an American-born girl - it’s just too risky, especially given our educational system and our colleges. The divorce rate for men married to immigrants is less than half of that for men married to Americans (I think a lot less), so it’s simply a probability game now. Why risk a crappy adulthood, when there are such easy steps to avoid it?


18 posted on 01/04/2013 4:15:16 AM PST by BobL
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That’s pretty depressing Bob. I have a teenage daughter who will attend college next year. She doesn’t share the “clean a guy out” point of view. But I’m sure a few of her friends do.

Because she’s a “brick house” my worry is some knucklehead will come along and treat her like dirt!


19 posted on 01/04/2013 4:46:10 AM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: I cannot think of a name
“Almost 60 percent of Americans have a high-school degree but not a college degree.”

So he’s saying that 40% of Americans have a college degree?

No, that is not what he is saying. He is saying that of Americans who have a high school "degree", fewer than half (over 40%) have also graduated from college, and more than half ("almost 60%") have not graduated from college.

This statistic does not address the percentage of Americans who do not have a high school "degree." I assume they're using the term "high school degree" here to include both people who have graduated from high school with a diploma and those who have earned a GED or equivalent credential.

20 posted on 01/04/2013 5:18:08 AM PST by Tax-chick (Mostly just confused.)
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