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To: Gabz; SoftballMominVA; verga; wintertime; Hope for the Republic; metmom

Firstly, responding to the thread:

1. I see armed police in private establishments all the time, such as the grocery store I once worked in and at the movie theaters;

2. I have seen armed police at public establishments, such as churches when they needed help with funerals, weddings, etc.

3. We, my school, have TWO fully licensed, sworn and trained deputy sheriffs with full arrest powers on campus, at all sporting events and activities.

These men are there to provide necessary protection to the student body and the school. It does not bother me in the least.

Additionally, I have a CCW, am fully armed and working on becoming an excellent shot with a rifle. If I can hit a playing card at 300 meters, I am good.:)

I do not and will not carry at school because of the liability and the fact too many students are involved. This does not mean I am opposed to teachers carrying, but I will not at school or a school function.

There - that part of this is settled.

The second part - dealing with the ravenous homeschool crowd (and I use the term crowd to mean a collective, not an individual entity) I feel the same way about homeschooling as I always have: if it is what is best for you and your family, I am for it. I have, to boot, several pieces of hard evidence to support its effectiveness based on state mandated testing, not anecdotal commentary.

My child’s physician is homeschooling their oldest child and I am in the process of helping them with her. She has a severe reading disability and needs help beyond the scope of our rural county (This, as an aside, is the same physician who referred my son to Atlanta and Egleston Children’s Hospital for myocarditis. He was/is wise enough to realize when he is out-gunned.) so I am trying to help them as much as possible.

I have personally offered my services to the homeschool community in my area as a language teacher, Latin, for their cohort. No answer yet, but I continue to offer.

So, where am I going with all of this? I refer back to my digression about my child and physician.

My child’s personal pediatrician admitted to my wife that Jake’s, my son, condition was *well* outside of the scope of his skill. Had he not referred us, the outcome was very, very dire - no, Jake would have been dead.

A medical professional admitted, honestly and forthright, that he could not answer a question. He did not equivocate, egress or ignore but instead handed us into the hands of someone who could help.

That said, this is directed to Dr. Wintertime.

Dr. Wintertime, you have, elsethread and on more than one occasion, commented on how professional teachers would not and do not need to avoid hard and serious questions with students. I fully agree. You are right; I do not avoid the hard questions. If I do not know, I am fast to admit it to my children at school and home. There is no run or ask to be ignored.

However, as a medical professional, would you ignore a patient who is seeking your medical expertise and experience? Would you politely and respectfully ask them to leave your presence and not bother you further?

Is it fair to ask difficult and hard to answer questions of teachers but not to do the same of medical professionals?

And as you consider/do not consider my answer, I leave you with this: I guarantee, and will provide empirical evidence, not anecdotal evidence, that the history of the medical profession is considerably more tainted with negativity and damage than the same of public education. However, this is not the topic nor the thread to discuss.

I await your response, keenly.

To Dr. Wintertime and the rest: Happy New Year.


29 posted on 01/04/2013 7:01:56 AM PST by shag377 (Don't get mad at me when I play your game by your rules, and I win.)
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To: shag377

I respectfully request that you not ping me or send private mail to me. Please feel free to comment as you like on my posts or threads. You have permission to use my name on any thread or post, but, please, no contact.

Politely and respectfully,

wintertime


30 posted on 01/04/2013 1:57:49 PM PST by wintertime
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To: shag377; wintertime
You are 100% correct Shag - and I for one am relieved that your doctor admitted to being in over her head and sent you on to those that could and did save your son's life.

As far as cops in schools, I'm not a fan at all. But then I'm not a fan of having a crazy person blast their way in with the intent to kill children.

In addition, I am even LESS of a fan of the current plan in our school system wherein teachers (including myself) will be stationed at the entrance to check ID's and to alert the office in case of trouble. I WILL NOT be standing such a post. In the event of trouble I am the last person anyone wants there. The early warning system will be me, dead on the floor. Not to mention, in the event I let someone in who did great harm, how would I live with that? I couldn't. Manning a security post is not what I'm trained for in any sense of the word. Will not do it.

As far as the rest of your post... somewhat surprised that Dr. Wintertime would refuse to answer a well-written, well-reasoned post. One that was polite, kind, and supportive.

This type of closed-mindedness is not typically seen among the intellectual elite, but rather those with lower intellectual abilities. As in, I cannot respond to you, therefore I will simply put my fingers in my ears and turn away from the discussion.

I, for one, have EXTREME doubt as to her claims of her previous profession. I DO NOT believe that she is or ever was a member of the medical profession beyond that of a basic tech. Her words, arguments, and even basic syntax, grammar, and spelling have never supported this claim.

I have pinged her in this post for the simple reason that it is protocol. I understand I will get the ‘cut and paste do-not-post-to-me-notice” and I accept that as the price of common courtesy. My level of courtesy is not reflective or determined by another, but by what I know to be right. It is not necessary to ping that to me, but of course, you may as I have no control over your actions.

In short, people who post on public forums should be open to discussion, or they should not post.

The next ‘cut and paste’ statement will most likely be brought to you by “Dr.” Wintertime

Enjoy

31 posted on 01/04/2013 3:55:02 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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