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To: usconservative

I will probably draw a hail of fire and brimstone over this comment but here it goes.....

It is up to Illinois Citizens to police what their State does.

What the FERAL Court did was an overstep of their jurisdiction. The 2nd Amendment does not give the FERAL Government authority to do ANYTHING. The 2nd Amendmendment tells the FERAL government what it CANNOT do. Simple as that.

Illinois Citizens need to feed the hogs.....


11 posted on 12/31/2012 2:45:04 PM PST by eartick
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To: eartick

Most of rural folk in Illinois would vote to let Cook county join DC, Boulder Colorado, Austin Texas and become their only little state.


14 posted on 12/31/2012 3:02:16 PM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: eartick

AMENDMENT I: CONGRESS shall make no law...

AMENDMENT II: The right OF THE PEOPLE shall not...

Kindly note the difference.


17 posted on 12/31/2012 4:22:17 PM PST by T Wayne (If you know how many guns you have, you don't have enough!!!)
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To: eartick
I will probably draw a hail of fire and brimstone over this comment but here it goes.....

It is up to Illinois Citizens to police what their State does.

As a resident of this socialist hell-hole named the People's RepubliK of Illannoyed, I couldn't agree more.

What the FERAL Court did was an overstep of their jurisdiction. The 2nd Amendment does not give the FERAL Government authority to do ANYTHING. The 2nd Amendmendment tells the FERAL government what it CANNOT do. Simple as that.

I think you're confusing Constitutional Amendments. It is the Tenth Amendment that tells the Federal Government what it cannot do to the states, ie "All rights not expressly given to the Federal Government are reserved by the States."

The Second Amendment is our Constitutional Guarantee to keep and bear arms.

In this case, the Federal Government via the Federal Appeals Court had a vested interest in ensuring that all citizens of the State of Illinois enjoyed their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS as expressed by the Founding Fathers to keep and bear arms, and by natural extension have the right to defend themselves.

The State of Illinois is one or two (I think...) States left that does not have Conceal/Carry laws. The Federal Appeals Court struck down the State of Illinois' view that Citizens of the State only had a right to bear arms in self-defense in their homes.

In their ruling, the Federal Appeals Court ordered the State of Illinois to write a law enabling Conceal/Carry in Illinois, and that the state must issue Conceal/Carry permits.

The Federal Appeals court didn't stop there, they'll be REVIEWING the law after it's passed to validate that it enables Conceal/Carry and doesn't create undue/unnecessary burdens for the residents of Illinois to obtain Conceal/Carry permits. If the court finds the law the State of Illinois passes is too restrictive, they've already stated they'll strike it down and make Illinois try again (as necessary.) If the State does NOT meet the Court's requirements, the Court may order the State of Illinois to become "must issue" or "shall issue." Boy, won't that be exciting! (I think so, I live here!)

So in closing, in this case, the Federal Government via the Federal Appeals Court actually got this one exactly right.

Illinois Citizens need to feed the hogs.....

If you mean feed the Illinois Republican Party, I'll be the first to tell you that Illinois Republican's are the WORST form of RINO. They're nothing more than Socialist-Lite. Again, I live here, been here since 1977. Politically speaking, this state couldn't possibly be in worse shape.

Remember, we're the only state in the Country that has TWO former Governor's serving time in Federal Prison RIGHT NOW for Political Corruption.

Happy New Year!

19 posted on 12/31/2012 6:38:10 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: eartick

You are misreading the 2nd Amendment. Unlike the 1st in which the operative phrase is “Congress shall make no law. . .,” the 2nd has the operative phrase “. . . shall not be infringed.” The plain meaning does not require the application of the 14th Amendment to make it applicable to the states and localities — “shall not be infringed” is an absolute statement, not a restraint specifically placed on the Federal government or the Congress.


24 posted on 01/01/2013 9:02:46 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: eartick

Wrong. The Bill of Rights does actually apply to all citizens. For example, a state cannot outlaw free speech. It’s bizzare to suggest the Bill of Rights and constitutional protections only apply to people in DC and military bases, etc.


29 posted on 01/01/2013 7:42:33 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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