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To: raybbr

I don’t get that, either. Throughout history it seems, many Jews have been promoters of socialism and communism, even though they are the first ones to be targeted when the socialists attain power. Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice said.


22 posted on 12/31/2012 7:51:13 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX

>>>I don’t get that, either. Throughout history it seems, many Jews have been promoters of socialism and communism, even though they are the first ones to be targeted when the socialists attain power. Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice said.<<<<

Throughout history? Wrong. Since the expulsion of the Jews by the Romans, most Jews in Europe lived in small communities separate from the larger culture around them. During the first part of the Islamic expansion, the Jews were accepted as sort of favored slaves. In neither case were they agitating for athiesm and a collective state. Their religion and faith held them together against unceasing attacks from others around them.

You’re thinking about the European Jews in the past 120 years, which includes relatives that I have had the chance to listen to. Those Jews looked back on their history and saw the attacks directed at them - and in the case of Russia, the plan for genocide by Czar Alexander - and many of those attacks were supported by Christians saying things like, “The Jews killed Jesus.” This history made the athiest and frankly anti-Christian attitude of the socialist and communists attractive to the Jews. I still find much suspicion about the motives and attitudes of Christians among the Jews I know. This is especially true of the lapsed Jews that I know, who are ethnically Jewish but don’t practice their faith. They know the stories of the old days of persecution from Christians, but their own lack of faith makes them unable to see how the world has changed.

It’s interesting that the Jews forced out of their Middle Eastern enclaves have no such bias in favor of socialism.

Yes, of course this makes many Jews the “useful idiots” described by Lenin, and Jewish culture promotes intellectual discussion and academic discovery, which puts them in a bad place with any sort of socialist or communist regieme. On the other hand, it isn’t the first time the Jews have strayed from God’s path. We are described as a “stiff-necked lot” in the Bible. Socialism and communism is just a modern version of the worship of Ba’al.

IMHO


68 posted on 12/31/2012 8:56:51 AM PST by redpoll
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To: Pining_4_TX
Throughout history it seems, many Jews have been promoters of socialism and communism, even though they are the first ones to be targeted when the socialists attain power. Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice said.

Stalin, before he died, was preparing a vast pogrom, a genocidal pogrom, of Jews living within the Soviet Empire. The ultimate Soviet Socialist was preparing to finish the work in eastern Europe that the National Socialist paperhanger began.

100 posted on 12/31/2012 12:19:06 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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