Nope, that's quite a leap of logic on your part. I am an admirer of Elon Musk, who's done very well with the impetus of PayPal to start him off. SpaceX is taking on the established interests and soundly beating them at the space launch game.
"You might actually be able to find some idiots that are also true believers in electric fantasy cars. Fact remains, electric cars will not be profitable at all."
You keep trying to state that as fact, but you're instead making predictions. You seem unable to make the distinction between the two. We'll see how things play out in reality.
"Fact remains, Musk is a big Obama fan."
Musk contributes to both Dems and the GOP, but my take is that he does it to further his interests. Smart, eh? Just what I'd expect of a self-made billionaire.
"Fact remains, Musk is big on getting government funds and not using his own money in calculated risk."
Along with a ton of other companies...that is called "smart business".
"Fact remains, GE is a good example of cronyism, recall their massive donations and buddyism with Obama?"
Sure, and the relevance is what exactly? (BTW in my view GE is far worse than Tesla, it paid $0 in 2011 taxes right?)
Tesla will pay the loan back - and ahead of schedule.
"Doubt that. Just like GM “paid back” their bailout loan, right? [They haven’t by the way.]"
Obviously not like GM...duh.
There is never any “proof” that something will happen in the future. Some possibilities are more likely than others, though.
'Funny, you said it is a fact, from your post 34: “The fact is, though, that Tesla may very well eventually be profitable. “'
I absolutely did not say that.
Look genius, "may very well be" is not a statement of certainty. Words have meaning. (I will note that I said "Tesla will pay its loan off ahead of schedule", which should also have been stated as a probability, not a guarantee. Mea culpa.)
"So are you habitually a liar or just intellectually dishonest to a fault?"
Sometimes I long for the good old days of duels. However, given that you're clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed I'll just let it slide...
Look genius, "may very well be" is not a statement of certainty.
The fact is, though, that Tesla may very well eventually be profitable.
No, it's called corporate welfare, and a lack of good citizenship. And it's no better than if I went down to some government office and signed up to receive food stamps. It doesn't matter that 47 percent of the people in this country do it, it's still robbery using the coercive force of government to appropriate the property of those who earned it.
Thank you for proving that fiscal conservatism is impossible without social conservatism. As you can see "smart business" has taken the place of what is right and moral in your (and his) calculations. He advocates (because he practices) taking money (by force... because the IRS doesn't operate on suggestions) from people without very much of it, in order to have the government give it to his company, which could not convince investors to willingly give that much money to him. A portion of which he then skims off to pay back to the government in the form of campaign contributions. This is evil.
How many other immoral actions could you justify as "good business"? Burning down a competitor's factory? Extortion and bribery? Killing your competitors' families (that's "good business" in may parts of the world)?
The fact is that you are praising him for using the force of the government to take money from others, thereby growing the size of government and destroying the economic liberties of those taxed to create his largesse. You obviously don't have a clue as to what your own screen-name means...