“Hold the phone BobL......you say there are those on this site that insist on their goodies like Social Security and Medicare? Uh, excuse me, but haven’t we ALL been forced to pay INTO it all these years??”
Doesn’t matter...the money you paid in IS GONE, and everyone knows it and they have known it FOR DECADES. I knew it nearly 30 years ago when I first started working.
So, with the money gone - we’re now talking about programs that are no different than Welfare - which is the TAKING of money by force from people earning to and giving it to the people that don’t work.
I simply have a problem with that, as it’s no different than me ‘investing’ my money with Bernie Madoff, losing it to him, and then me going to may neighbor’s house with a shotgun to demand he pay me back. It is NOT my neighbor’s fault that the money is gone. It doesn’t matter that Bernie sent me the nice statements telling me how rich I was - the money is simply gone.
...and no, we will NEVER be able to get it back from the politicians who spent it - it’s long gone, at least 99% of it.
So pray tell BobL now that we’re in the “mooching” class and no longer young enough to work what is YOUR solution? Put us out on the street and put us on another form of WELFARE...or have our kids take us in...or move back in with our parents...wait! They’re all DEAD except my 86 year old mother who has dementia and I take care of her. Maybe we should just move in with her and live on her 900.00 a month. Of course! That’s what we can do.........silly me. If you think doing away with SS and Medicare and having workers save for their own retirement, think again. In this economy do you really think that people are going to be able to do it? I don’t hold out much hope for that and years down the road those same workers will have to depend on government for the WELFARE state that will surely follow. We never expected to get SS and that’s the reason we put money toward our pension and just because part of that was to be paid by Hub’s employer we’re STILL these evil money grabbers. Hell’s Bell’s we’re getting it coming and going.