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To: Finny

“The amoral capitalist is a bereft thing.”

So that what you are saying is that it is acceptable for one country to try to demand that the companies of another country run their businesses in a certain manner?

That reeks of imperialism to me. Why do you think that this country is so hated throughout the world? We are continually trying to impose our will upon others and be the world’s ‘morality’ policemen.

Why was there outrage on FR when communist China tried to tell this country that we had to have more stringent gun laws? For the same reason that China does not like us to tell them how to run their country.

Let’s assume that this country would be successful in making companies in another country change their policies toward their employees. Let’s assume that they would say, “OK, USA, you are correct. We are going to institute a 40-hour work week, eight hours per day with an hour for lunch and two 15-minute breaks, two weeks paid vacation per year. In addition, instead of $2 per month salary we are going to start paying them at USA union wages, i.e., $20 per hour for unskilled labor. However, with the rising cost of production, those 10 million widgets you bought for $1 million last month...the price has risen. It is now going to cost $10 million for 1 million widgets.”

My point is, “Where does the morality stop and common sense start?” Is a 40-hour work-week ‘morally’ acceptable? Says who? Why? Taking into consideration travel-time to and from work, that is more than 1/3 of a person’s life. Is that ‘moral’? Does the bible say that a 40-hour work-week is acceptable?

Try to go out shopping and return home WITHOUT something that says, “Made in China” on the tag. You can’t do it. can you? I look for items that DON’T have a union label.

Are you willing to pay double and/or triple higher prices to assuage your ‘morality’? Oh, you changed your mind? I thought so!


50 posted on 12/29/2012 1:20:58 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise; All
So that what you are saying is that it is acceptable for one country to try to demand that the companies of another country run their businesses in a certain manner?

That you interpret what I am saying as the above, speaks volumes. The idea of forcing China to do anything never entered my mind.

Are you willing to pay double and/or triple higher prices to assuage your ‘morality’? Oh, you changed your mind? I thought so!

As usual, I expect, you thought wrong.

Individual Americans are shackled with regard to engaging in capitalism. Go try to make a living catching and selling fish. Or by opening up a store and selling widgets. Or by growing vegetables in your yard and selling them at a farmer's market.

The "value" of Chinese crap would evaporate if the power and productivity of individual Americans was given the freedom to thrive. Instead, everything from unions to environmentalist horsecrap to labor laws prevent honest people from making an honest, creative, productive living.

Like our government forces us to subsidize with our labor on-demand abortion, it has forced our agricultural and manufacturing sectors into having to depend on the likes of China for our everyday goods.

And you think this is about telling China what to do?

51 posted on 12/29/2012 1:58:54 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
Hi Spel,
I dont support the way unions have morphed over the years but we should try to support American workers as best as we can (assuming the products and cost are compettitve).
54 posted on 12/29/2012 3:48:58 PM PST by Moleman
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