Posted on 12/28/2012 2:00:21 PM PST by SMGFan
Every day I find myself more and more looking forward to it all coming apart. I probably will not survive the resulting mess, but at least my daughter will have a chance at helping to fix it and rebuild a free country. As it stands now, there is no way it can go on.
I consider you to be very courageous. Your wife passed from this veil of tears but obviously you gave her gifts that money can never buy.
Thank you for sharing your bit of heaven and hell.
Ohio ping..
Thanks. Believe me it sucked. And always will suck. But it’s one of the reasons I have taken such strong positions on these threads.
Any of us that have had a taste of control freaks, regardless of whether they are family/bosses or what not have a perspective that for better or worse, others dont. Better in that they thankfully don’t have the memories of hell we do, but worse in that because of it, it makes it easy to spout complete nonsense without ever experiencing the fallout of their statements.
I’ll be the first to admit that there are PLENTY of manipulative little bastards out there that thrive on self gratification and their trust fund. But there are a lot of kids that end up on the street because of the abuse heaped on them by selfrightous idiots claiming to be great parents.
And these people are RESPONSIBLE foe a hell of a lot of suffering.
In this particular case, we cannot know for sure if this girl is a saint or sinner in this as all we have to go by is an MSM article. But the concepts are the real jist of it. And this thread shows why we are so screwed up as a movement and as a country.
Jesse Lee Peterson? AS in the guy Hannity has on his show from time to time? He seems like a reasonable person on the radio....what in the heck did you do to end up with a restraining order against you? Are you really so clueless as to not know when to stay away on your own????
and the word is hear say not ‘here say’.....at least get your info correct
The answer to that is very little..he is not so reasonable as he appears and I doubt, after his diatribe against women that went viral, that Hannity will ever have him on TV again. I sent some emails, not many, to his assistant about insights I had while I would hear his show..on occasion. Just real normal insights, nothing ever angry or threatening at all. I sent Mr. Peterson a total of three of those in about over one years time..all very civil..they did not want any...but at times his assistant did converse with me..then told me don’t send my insights anymore. still, was not harassment. I had stopped going to his church like a year prior, and I have never ever threatened or even been mad at him. He made up this supposed threat because I saw some real issues with him that he is in some real bad denial about. The last time he took me to court, it was literally over my Youtubes that were about the prior court hearings and his perjury. The judge said, so what! I have that right to make videos for heaven sakes. The man is a cobtrol freak..control about his false image, sadly. Here is my YouTube summarizing some of this debacle. By the way, he totally lied in court and committed perjury badly, even saying that he fired me when I used to work for him. complete lie and his assistant Patrick even admitted that to a former church member. Jesse thinks he is this sin-free holy man, and he is not at all and he resented me talking like that to my friends and bond church members..so he went after me illegally gaming the system against me. I know it sound crazy, and it was! I am not the only one that sees this stuff...many others do also..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2vOkXzXokQ
BINGO!! The only thing I do know it the MSM prints an article for their agenda. This one is for the gov't and school being 'her savior' and her parents are wrong. And when away from her parents she finally saw the light and the courts and school rescued her!
I say whatever experience we had, is how much of this article is true or not - to that individual. We may see some truth, some lies or agree/disagree with it all.
From what I experienced and is truly missing from this article is any kind of appreciation from this girl for her parents. My daughter was so appreciative, her first job she set out to buy us a cruise. She said she thought about it for years - and couldn't wait till it could fulfill her dream. She could have used her money for herself first in so many ways but she not only didn't, the thought never entered her mind. And that's my experience - so that's what I'm seeing is missing from this article.
This girl saying her parents came 600 miles unannounced - maybe she didn't answer her calls or emails with her 'wanting to be free' spirit. With them speaking with a professor - maybe it's one they learned from their daughter 'sounds' stable and they can trust to mention they are concerned about her in one way or another - maybe because she didn't answer their calls? It could be anything. The article and the girl made it sounds like it's being an 'over bearing' parent to do that or proof that they are overbearing. The gov't would like nothing more for the parents to butt out - a great way for them to control the students. IMO, that's one intent of this article.
Saying she's an A student - makes it to appear she's smart enough to know the right thing and capable to live her life as she sees fit. The way I see it - she traded one control over the other. She used the courts to control her parents and the school to be 'her parents' financially. It is so suspect she did this in her last year. I say she's a drama queen - her chosen career path where she expected to get an A and the courts and school gave her an A while she slapped in parents in the face with her desire to control them.
IMO, it is all deception because I know the media's intent, the courts intent, schools intent - and it's all in this article.
This is not to say there are not parents who do control. We know that to be true. And there are children who control their parents. She could have waited another year and thanked her parents and made the best of what she was already given - with landing a job no matter how lowly and live according to it with NO handouts. No new cloths, no nice place to live, no conveniences - to the bare bone and then climb the ladder to success. It will take years. She's been somewhat privileged her life - and from what I can see - unappreciative. I doubt she would accept a lowly job and deny herself anything, after all, she's an A student and the one who gets the 'parts' in school and the one who wins in court. She's special - and that is her belief.
I see a hard fall coming - it may be in 20 or 30 years - when there is no cushion to fall back on - parent or school. And worse yet - there is no one to show her the errors of her ways - they are only pointing to her parents and how wrong they are - reaffirming the drama 'A' queen she is right. She is being controlled more by others now - who basically don't give a flip about her - only, now, they care and for their own agenda.
Again, if she waited another year - her intentions 'to do it on her own' would have been sincere. She is the one who signed up for classes with no money but with the expectation of her parents paying. If she didn't sign up, there would be nothing for her willing parents to pay for - or what she calls them 'controlling'. She bought earrings with no job - will the school provide a new pair? She's an A student who is as dumb as rocks - who couldn't break away on her own - she chose the court and school to do it for her. So she learned nothing on her own through true grit!
We all need to break away from some things in order to grow and it is never never easy because we have to battle all that junk inside of us while being around others and media who may say they have a better way.
If we don't came out with scars to counter attack the original scars, we didn't fight the battle to be free. This girl doesn't have what it takes to fight the battle - she took it to the courts and school instead. She, merely, postponed it. She won't be free until she does it on her own. And that means what she perceives as being true and what is true.
Like you said, we will never know the truth - saint or sinner - because we know propaganda is to instill in the mind what they want instilled for their own agenda. And people are definitely swayed by it no matter what they say, they even repeat the verbiage the media uses while denying the media. It's so subtle they can't see it. That's how deception works.
I am refusing more and more to take in what's coming from the 'outside' - right down to what people think. In '08 I saw how many are deceived and later some admitted they had been deceived. In '12 I saw even more being deceived while they denied it at the time - and who later admitted they were. So deception is rampant - those who are and those who can be - in spite of, at the time, what they valued to be true to them.
Great post #89
so what you are telling me is that a) nyou are a disgruntled former church member ; b) you have an ax to grind over various issues that you think he doesn’t teach properly ; c) when you were asked to quit contacting them you did not.
Apparently you are a pain in the rear who thinks that your view point is somehow so very important that others must agree with you.
I now understand precisely. And no I did not bother to go to your video
Thanks, Thomas. And from your own perspective, there is NO doubt you could do the same. I bounced off of another poster’s.
It doesn’t matter if you post it or not - the main point is that you/we have it for our own selves. That deception is rampant and we must guard ourselves against it. Deception - things and ways - comes at us at every way possible and are too numerous to mention and enters through our eyes and/or ears right to the mind and heart. Then we make decisions based on it and share our thoughts based on that deception we took in.
There are many ways to get info today. We almost can’t escape it. So it’s not strange so many are/can/will be deceived and they, themselves, spread it even more. It is so intertwined in our society - we feel our country/our people are lost. Like how did we get here so quick, what happened? And who/what to believe anymore. We have been bombarded from every side.
By the way, if you really are not open minded to the true answer, you shouldn’t even ask the question. You already had your mind made up.
A life filled with resentment blocks one from the Sunlight of the Spirit.
I hope youget over your anger.... and yourself one of these years
And this answer says everything I need to know about you. I asked. You gave an answer. I responded and you did not like my answer so you devolve into name calling and further over explanation of how right you are.
My conclusions are proven by your own responses
nope..you assumed wrongly about me, so I simply responded with the truth. Sort of hard to make it real short with what was done to me. What names did I call you? I don’t think you really care about the truth here, just hold your false position.. OK with me! You are the one that contacted me, so don’t blame me when I provide the answer! Good lord...
I have no resentment for the man nor anyone and my life is very blessed due to that. If you had watched my short YouTube, you would have probably seen that.
You remind me of the jessebots who find it very easy to assume an anger on me, but totally not see what this man has done to my good name...because it would take REAL courage or them to stand up to him. As I say in my YouTube, anyone who misrepresents the most holy position of reverend and sin-free state...I reserve the right to expose that with a smile! That is the only right thing to do! : )
your ability to comprehend the English language appears to be limited. I have blamed you for nothing. I have merely commented on your comments.
Don’t bother to respond I am done.
you get more delusional with every post.......your meds need to be checked
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