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To: Eye of Unk
I would look into some high end portable framing guns, they use a butane cartridge and a combustion chamber, up the pressures say by using acetylene gas and oxygen....?

Have a care when playing with acetylene gas. If I recall correctly it detonated under modest pressure. What follows is a quote from MSHA regarding safe handling of acetylene gas:

Acetylene is the most common gas used for fueling cutting torches...many users may not be aware of the unique characteristics of acetylene itself that create special hazards compared to other fuel gases.

Chemical Composition: An acetylene molecule is composed of two carbon atoms and two hydrogen atoms. The two carbon atoms are held together by what is known as a triple carbon bond. This bond stores substantial energy that can be released as heat during combustion. However, the triple carbon bond is unstable, making acetylene gas very sensitive to conditions such as excess pressure, excess temperature, static electricity, or mechanical shock.

Storage: Because of acetylene's unstable nature, it must be stored under special conditions. This is accomplished by dissolving the acetylene in liquid acetone. The liquid acetone is then stored in the acetylene cylinder, which in turn, is filled with a porous (sponge-like) material.

NEVER ATTEMPT TO STORE OR INJECT ACETYLENE GAS INTO ANY TYPE OF VESSEL, TANK, OR ENCLOSURE. IMPROPERLY STORED ACETYLENE GAS IS UNSTABLE.

ACETYLENE GAS REGULATORS SHOULD NOT EXCEED A SETTING OF 15 P.S.I.G.

FLAME ARRESTORS AND CHECK VALVES SHOULD BE INSTALLED AT BOTH THE TORCH BASE HOSE CONNECTIONS AND AT THE REGULATOR HOSE CONNECTIONS.

ACETYLENE CYLINDERS SHOULD BE PROPERLY SECURED AT ALL TIMES. MOVEMENT OF CYLINDERS SHOULD BE DONE WITH CARE. CYLINDERS SHOULD BE PROTECTED FROM FLAME OR HEAT.

When exposed to excess temperature, pressure, or mechanical shock, pure or less than pure acetylene gas can undergo a violent, explosive decomposition reaction. Additionally, if this reaction, or an ignition of acetylene occurs within the torch base or supply hose, it can propagate back into the storage cylinder causing it to explode violently.

Because of the very fast reaction rate of burning acetylene, it is not generally possible to design an enclosure to safely vent the explosive pressures. Furthermore, because of the ease of ignition of acetylene, premature ignition is very possible.

Very bad JuJu!

Mixed with oxygen it's the ignition energy of acetylene is almost 100 times lower than it is in air. The lower flammable limit (LFL) is typically listed as 2.5% and the upper flammable limit (UFL) is listed as 81%. Although acetylene will not undergo combustion at concentrations above the UFL, it can undergo an explosive decomposition reaction, even at concentrations of 100%.

Messing with acetylene with pressures as low as 15 psi can result in a nasty explosion. Stick to the propane, it's safer by far.

Regards,
GtG

33 posted on 12/29/2012 10:20:57 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

I have been messing with oxy acetylene torches for 44 years mate.
If i had to make a weapon without regular ammunition I would want some nasty stuff.


35 posted on 12/29/2012 4:02:25 PM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray; Eye of Unk

Shove a pellet into the front end of a cylinder, meter acetylene into the center of that cylinder at 10 psi, then abruptly slam a piston into the back end...


45 posted on 12/31/2012 10:10:38 PM PST by null and void (Socialism: Equal parts dumb and evil, in a blender.)
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