Posted on 12/28/2012 10:26:50 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham
This is the shocking moment two masked thugs brutally attacked a 62-year-old man with a gun moments after he arrived home.
The footage shows how the man, who had just driven up to his house and parked his Range Rover, was punched to the floor before being repeatedly hit with the weapon.
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You are correct.
A PPW is for a private citizen. On the mainland, I assume its for people whose background or job puts them in potential harm. I dont know a lot about them to be honest.
PPW’s dont pertain to the police. Most of whom are not armed, armed police in the UK are specialist officers and units.
You are correct, my apologies.
And I am an airgun owner, lol. Pistol and rifle. Although mine are pretty standard .177, .22’s, that dont require an FAC.
1—Some British dont like America. I have said that in my time here on FR.
2—No, I tend to avoid messageboards/comments, because most people who post on them are loudmouths.
3—I wont apologise for defending my country on here.
4—Dont let the bile and hate of a minority confuse you with what the majority thinks. Remember, an empty veseel makes the loudest noise.
5—Yes, we have crime. But we dont have the constant massacres that we saw at Newtown. We are shocked that these seem to happen with frightening regularity.
Just another everyday crime in a dying country. What's amazing is that the Range Rover actually ran.
We don’t have “constant” massacres. If we did, we’d all be dead. The worldwide media goes nuts when there is a shooting in America encouraging copy cat madmen. (Besides, I think you guys had one in Scotland unless I’m mistaken?) And I must say, our country has yet to produce someone as charming as Myra Hindley.
You come to FR but you don’t go to your own message boards? That’s odd. You might learn something that we Americans have found out: Great Britain has no understanding of our Constitution, specifically the 1st and 2nd.
You don’t need to apologise for defending your country. But I’ll defend my country to the very end and correct all the wrongheaded impressions left by your media.
‘We don’t have “constant” massacres. If we did, we’d all be dead.’
You have had more spree killers since 1984 than the rest of us in the West combined. Not that 1984 was the start of it: Whitman for example. How many have you had just this year?. This one, James Holmes, the Sikh temple.....are you seriously denying you dont have a constant stream of spree killers?. Columbine, Virginia Tech.....the number in the 30 years is frankly endless. Sadly.
‘And I must say, our country has yet to produce someone as charming as Myra Hindley.’
What a bizarre statement. I would try and respond with an American serial killer/sociopath, but I am sadly spoilt for choice.
‘You come to FR but you don’t go to your own message boards? That’s odd.’
Thats not what I said. I said I dont go the messageboards on the BBC News or Sky News. I am a member of many British boards across many interests, from soccer to film, music to politics. FR and RightNation are the only two US ones I am a member of.
‘You might learn something that we Americans have found out: Great Britain has no understanding of our Constitution, specifically the 1st and 2nd.’
And my years on here and on RN and on US sites generally has taught me that many Americans equally have a frankly ignorant grasp of Britain. And the world outside the US.
‘You don’t need to apologise for defending your country. But I’ll defend my country to the very end and correct all the wrongheaded impressions left by your media.’
As you should. But there is nothing wrong or unpatriotic in saying your country has problems. You can admit that and still love your country despite its faults.
Like the problem with Britain's subjects having been rendered defenseless, despite the Orwellian surveillance cage* that has been erected around them to keep them "safe".
* Coming to the Fascist States of America as we type.
Remember Dublane, scotsman, before you do your usual dumping on America.
I mentioned Myra Hindley not because we don’t have killers but because of the hideous nature of her offense: audiotaping children’s final death screams while her boyfriend raped and murdered those same kids. She couldn’t be executed because English justice made a major screwup with Tim Evans.
You should be glad that Americans don’t follow your news cycles. If they did more of that, you, perhaps, would not be so superior.
Wrong on two counts.
1—The British arent subjects.
2—The British can legally own firearms.
1—I havent denied the UK has had spree killers (3 so far). Its the sheer volume of them that the US seems to have.
2—I dont dump on America. Wind your neck in.
3—And there havent been US serial killers who have indulged in even worse bestial torture?. Hindley was evil, a vile excuse for a human being (as is Brady),
And she couldnt be executed because the death penalty had been suspended in 1965. And that wasnt totally down to Evans. In fact, it had little to do with it at the time. There had been other notorious cases (Hanratty, Derek Bentley, Ruth Ellis, all of which were much more controversial than Evans), and as the 60’s came in, a more liberal feeling started to affect people’s opinions on the death penalty.
Ludovic Kennedy and his book on Evans didnt come out until well after Evans’s hanging in the early 50’s. The public idea of Evans as a wrongly hung man really didnt take on until the book and esp the 1971 film.
4—Evans wasnt innocent. Despite the hype from the book and film ‘10 Rillington Place’. He has become a cause celebre for innocence here, but usually by people who have just seen the classic film and dont know anything about the case.
Same with Hanratty. Who lo and behold turned out to be guilty (thank you DNA).
5—Stop bleating about this limey acting all superior. Because I am not. I get no joy from American murders, deaths or spree killers. Any more straw and you could burn Edward Woodward with whats left over.
Calm down yourself, scotsman. I haven’t seen you so worked up since I told you I disliked Bisto granules.
I think most people realized that the death of Tim Evans might have been a miscarriage of justice when John Christie resurfaced in 1953 with a house full of dead bodies. So, no, I don’t believe the brilliant film or the Kennedy book was completely responsible for exonerating Evans. I tend to think Evans was innocent but would certainly be willing to consider the alternative.
And, of course, I understand that there were probably other reasons for the death of the death penalty in England.
Two things before I’ll deal with your reply:
1. As an American, you know that my sense of irony does not go so far as being called a whore. (I also recommend that you don’t use the infamous “c” word around here. Americans don’t understand its nonsexual use.)
2: Paragraphs are our friends.
O.K., I appreciate the information.
1—I couldnt spell ‘of Babylon’, lol.
2—It came out in one chunk, but the initial writing was in paragraphs, I assure you. Weird.
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