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To: Longbow1969
Politically Ross Perot was very relevant.....and you can bet your ass, it's going to happen again.

I'm very tired of listening to GOP cheerleaders..pointing/looking to a new way.

Well, listen I've been hearing that for years and it's not happened yet...We continue to slide down the Socialist @%^* hole...with the GOP-E in charge.

I'm done. And I know ten's of folks like me....And I know they know more folks like me!

42 posted on 12/27/2012 3:35:29 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Osage Orange
I'm very tired of listening to GOP cheerleaders..pointing/looking to a new way.

Amen. And every time, the GOP does the same thing, lean left and lose.

If I'm going to lose anyway, I'll lose with a conservative candidate from another party, instead of a liberal from the GOP.

/johnny

44 posted on 12/27/2012 4:02:53 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Osage Orange
Politically Ross Perot was very relevant.....and you can bet your ass, it's going to happen again.

So, let me get this straight. Your idea of politically "relevant" is being an electoral spoiler and making sure a Democrat gets elected? Oooookay. Politically that is about all Ross Perot ever managed to do.

I'm done. And I know ten's of folks like me....And I know they know more folks like me!

There's ALWAYS folks like you. That's my point. Other than perhaps playing spoiler, the 3rd party temper tantrums amount to nothing. Heck, in 1980 the "moderate" Republicans had themselves a "not going to take it anymore" moment and 5.7 million of them voted for RINO John Anderson. They made no difference at all - and that was nearly 6 million people!

We hear this EVERY election cycle. It's nothing new. It will amount to squat.

I understand your anger. It's well founded, but mostly misplaced. Is the GOP weak and poorly led? Sure, at the moment that is largely true. But the problem is much bigger than that. The problem is that demographics are changing rapidly and the public is shifting left (most especially on social issues). This change with the American public is magnifying our party's internal problems - but at heart the simple fact is the people aren't with us. Just shouting that we need to be more conservative isn't going to get it done. Lots of very conservative Tea Party Senate candidates who bucked the "establishment" in 2010 and 2012 got their butts kicked. In fact, our movement conservative and Tea Party folks are doing especially poorly at the statewide level. Boehner and the "establishment" (such that it exists) is only a small part of the problem we face going forward. Stomping your feet and refusing to participate if you don't get your way will accomplish precisely nothing.

45 posted on 12/27/2012 4:03:47 PM PST by Longbow1969
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