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Get Rid of the Republican Establishment, Once and for All
GOP USA ^ | 12/27/2012 | Matt Towery

Posted on 12/27/2012 1:20:29 PM PST by IbJensen

Here's a New Year's wish I would love to see come true. However it is defined or however many people are part of it, it is time to send the giant never-ending "GOP Establishment" made up of some professional politicians, some moneyed nouveaux riche who -- by virtue of their contributions and the faux friendships it buys with politicians -- consider themselves political landed gentry and the endless scam artist consultants they support packing.

As previously stated, I thought Mitt Romney to be a better candidate than did many observers. That said, the recent revelations in news articles that claim to chronicle the Romney campaign reinforce the idea that the "silk underwear" branch of the GOP just doesn't get it.

The emerging story of a candidate who really didn't want to run in the first place and consultants who never listened to pleas from his own family to humanize the man so that everyday people could "feel like he understands them" just makes conservatives and the GOP faithful sick. They once again spent their hard-earned money and endless time backing another Republican nominee who had no prayer of connecting with the average voter. Never mind that he was, at closer examination, a young man of privilege who outgrew his silver spoon to create his own hard-earned fortune, his case was never properly made.

And why is that? The answer is the current class of Republican "experts" and "consultants" who constantly blow into somewhere outside of their self-indulgent D.C. bubble and believe that they really do understand the "average American" in the 21st century. They do not.

Same for the well-entrenched elected officials, many of whom have gone from scrappy challengers of the status quo to fat and happy potentates. The so-called "experts" just sell any sort of snake oil a candidate or elected official and his loyal leeches will swallow. Hence, terrible focus-group-driven commercials, poor strategy in message and a "get out the vote" effort about as technologically advanced as the telegraph and with all the planning for contingencies as the Hurricane Katrina emergency efforts.

Until Republicans get rid of the inherent haughtiness of their operations, nothing will change. I've always described the GOP Establishment as a bunch who will hold a fundraiser, say, with an incumbent Republican president (don't hold your breath for that again anytime soon) or a nominee, or a governor's inauguration -- you name it -- with one unmentioned thing in mind: themselves. They inevitably make the event like one of those toys with endless boxes within boxes, each smaller than the one before it. That's how they do their big "fundraisers." There's the massive box, holding the masses -- where from the distance of a football field one might catch a fleeting glimpse or hear a bit of a speech or event.

From there on, the boxes get smaller and smaller -- and more elaborate. One huge amount gets you into a private reception; the next more expensive one warrants a 10 second photograph with the political star; then there's the price-busting one that gets you a 30 person private audience -- in which every dupe there fails to note that the leader of the free world or the top person in their state listens, speaks, leaves and likely forgets the whole thing five minutes later.

Oh, and then there is that last box. It's reserved for the same snooty creatures who have run everything in their subdivision of the GOP forever. They often are there because they helped take everyone else's money! But regardless, they are there, in the most private of rooms with the highest of public leaders, just hanging out. They are a small, cozy group -- the elite of the elite. Sort of like today's Republican Party -- a small, cozy group.

If I have to read one more story about some Republican official's great golf handicap or how much they all enjoy the private company of one another, I think I'll be sick.

Republicans need to retool their image and their mindset. Just shed all the king's trappings and some of the king's men. Keep the hardworking and in-touch ones, bring in fresh faces, understand the mindset of the next generation, but more than anything articulate what they stand for and, damn it, stand for it.

A little fire in the belly and purpose for being elected and holding office in the first place could at least start to get the GOP turned around before it really is too late.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: palin; republicrats; rinos
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To: Longbow1969

The problem for “third party” voters is they haven’t stopped to think about the quality of the person they’re voting for. These people have a serious personality defect or they wouldn’t be doing what they’re doing. They cannot win and they know it and they’re doing it for their ego. If these folks are so perfect, why don’t they simply stay in the Republican party, where they might actually win? They are not worthy of a wasted vote—they are just as flawed as any Republican candidate.


61 posted on 12/27/2012 4:53:43 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: IbJensen

Great idea. Let the Democrats have the next fifty years as the majority party in both Houses, AND the White House while we promote the new party and propagate the message.


62 posted on 12/27/2012 4:58:37 PM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
they are just as flawed as any Republican candidate.

A republican who is in it for the ego, and will lose.

You vote for an egotistical loser that is a liberal, and that's ok.

I vote for an egotistical loser that is conservative, and that's not ok.

Got it. You would rather be GOP than conservative.

I find GOP cheerleaders with their bashing and negativity to be annoying.

/johnny

63 posted on 12/27/2012 4:59:18 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Longbow1969

What I am “babbling” about is your single minded devotion to moving America left, that is why I posted what you quoted.

“”Amazing, we are only weeks past your last disaster as you lost the presidency to Jimmy Carter the II, with your liberalism, and already you are fighting to make sure that the candidate four years from now will be another liberal.””

You are a one note johnny, always fighting the tea party and conservatives, and promoting the Rockefeller/Romney part of the GOP.


64 posted on 12/27/2012 5:02:01 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Well, you have no plan to win an election. If I have to support a RINO to defeat the Dim, I'm willing to do it, if I can have a hard-core conservative, I'm all for that, too. I don't know what we're going to have to do but I am highly suspicious of ANYONE who claims they know why Romney lost because I don't believe them.

I hope it can all be explained to be because of voter fraud, but I don't know that, either. Maybe between voter fraud and those who either stayed home, or voted "third party", things may have been different.

We MUST stop this circular firing squad. We have primaries to choose our candidates. I will ALWAYS support the party's nominee because I despise Democrats far more than I despise Republicans.

65 posted on 12/27/2012 5:03:43 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: JRandomFreeper

There is no point in going through all this to deliberately lose. I want to defeat Democrats. Always vote for the most conservative of the choices. In the primary, vote for the most conservative but then in the general, again, always vote for the most conservative and that will always be the Republican.


66 posted on 12/27/2012 5:09:22 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
If I have to support a RINO to defeat the Dim, I'm willing to do it,

Bull, you are devoted to promoting it.

You are another one note johnny who's only message is to keep moving left, stay away from conservatism.

You aren't 'settling' for rinos, you are here to promote them.

67 posted on 12/27/2012 5:09:41 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
We MUST stop this circular firing squad.

Won't happen while you are willing to support a liberal.

Personally, I despise liberals, no matter which party.

I do know that Romney would be caving on 'assault weapons' if he had won, just like he did as governor.

So either way, I wind up with someone that wants to take my freedom away.

No thanks.

/johnny

68 posted on 12/27/2012 5:09:55 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Longbow1969

Truth is nobodies kicking so cons out. They want to win the presidency? Fine. Put up or shut up. The Gop is already working on it....Jindal...Rubio..Jeb...all I hear from the far right is whining...”not good enough...I’m leaving” Find a candidate who can win. Nobodies stopping you. But if the best you got is Palin/West...don’t waste everyone’s time.


69 posted on 12/27/2012 5:11:30 PM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Longbow1969
If you want my vote and the votes of an increasing number of actual conservatives, nominate candidates worth voting for. If you won't do that, if you insist on nominating greedocrats in elephant suits, if you and your worthless GOP-E polo player candidates don't care about the babies, marriage, economic freedom for ordinary folks of modest income, military issues, veterans, and other issues worth caring about, then again the GOP can go straight to hell where it belongs.

As to "likely voters," I have never failed to vote in 44 years. I am just not voting any longer for the trash that the GOP-E vomits up onto our ballots by buying nominations as Mittler did. I also note that you only see fit to reference "socialism" as though only money mattered. You will sweep the polo players and the art afficionados and the charity contributor tax dodgers. Good luck finding a majority by appealing only to such voters.

Don't hold your breath waiting for me to come back to be used by the GOP-E and its useless Demonrat-lite candidates.

70 posted on 12/27/2012 5:18:35 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Broil 'em now!!!)
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To: Blackirish
But if the best you got is Palin/West...don’t waste everyone’s time.

If the best you have is Romney, don't waste my time.

/johnny

71 posted on 12/27/2012 5:19:21 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ansel12
ansell, you are willing to LIE to make your point. I do not promote liberalism, I hate it. But neither you, nor I get to appoint who we want to win. The candidate must win an election by defeating the Democrat.

You can never find an instance where I promote a RINO. I repeatedly say, my goal is to defeat Democrats and I'll use whomever I need to to do it. There is no other way to advance a conservative agenda. If we continue to wait for the perfect, the RATS will have 100% control of everything.

72 posted on 12/27/2012 5:22:03 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Longbow1969
There's ALWAYS an establishment in a political party. You can replace it with a group of people you like better, but then they become the establishment.

True enough. We got rid of the Eastern Liberal Establishment Rockefeller Republicans over the years. Now new people, a lot of them who started out at the bottom sending out letters and answering phones for Bush or Dole or McCain, are the new establishment or elite. I guess Romney being his father's son obscures the changes, but throw out today's elite and you'll see another spring up soon enough with the same complaints attached to different names.

73 posted on 12/27/2012 5:25:48 PM PST by x
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

You are the one lying, and you do it every time that you deny that your goal is promoting rinos.

You are devoted to it on this thread, always trying to block conservatism and promote rinoism,

We are only weeks after a devastating example of how a rino loses even when it is impossible to lose, and what are you doing? Fighting to maintain rinoism for 2014 and 2016.


74 posted on 12/27/2012 5:29:31 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I do know that Romney would be caving on 'assault weapons' if he had won, just like he did as governor.

Romney is more than a conservative hating rino, he is something of a psycho.

" “These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”

75 posted on 12/27/2012 5:34:21 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: IbJensen
Well let's do it. If the Repubs embrace illegal immigration .and homo marriage, which they will, they are history.

need savvy media techs and CONSTITUTIONAL candidates

76 posted on 12/27/2012 5:35:27 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: ansel12

My goal is to defeat Democrats any way I have to do it. You confuse it as promoting RINOS—it is not. I see no virtue in deliberately losing to a Democrat—ever!! Again, my goal is to defeat Democrats!! Do you think it more virtuous to wait for a perfect candidate than to try to stop a Democrat? I don’t. Democrats are the epitome of evil and they must be stopped at every opportunity. You go ahead and help Democrats if you think that is the right thing to do but I will NEVER do anything to allow a Democrat a clear path to further their tyranny.


77 posted on 12/27/2012 5:48:24 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I do not promote liberalism, I hate it. But neither you, nor I get to appoint who we want to win. The candidate must win an election by defeating the Democrat.

And that candidate must win a primary by garnering a majority of votes from people who cast ballots in GOP primaries. There is a wide range of people in this group and the candidate we like best won't often win and become the nominee. If you listen to the foolishness on this thread, that means we should stomp our feet and have a temper tantrum.

I've read your posts for a long time Conservativegreatgrandma and I know you are simply a realist. Some of these folks shouting at you are not politically serious people. On political forums like this you have to accept there are always going to be some loud mouths who talk a big game but accomplish nothing.

In the primaries, vote for the most conservative candidate that CAN win a general election. That means its pointless to vote for candidates, no matter how much we like their policy positions, if they have no chance to win against their Democrat opponent. In general elections, with very few exceptions, always vote for the Republican - even if you don't like that too terribly much. General elections are NOT an affirmative endorsement of a candidate (that is what primaries are for), they are a choice between the only 2 candidates that can win. It's really that simple.

78 posted on 12/27/2012 6:02:15 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
...you are going to have to accept that a large portion of the party members are not very conservative and simply don't agree with a lot of us conservatives on FR.

Perhaps you can explain to me why I would wish to affiliate myself with people who do not agree with my political philosophy. That one just goes right by me.

79 posted on 12/27/2012 6:04:08 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: BlackElk
I cannot tell you how liberating it was in 2012 to not vote for either major party candidate for the first time in a long adult life.

I'm right there with you. John McCain is the last liberal I will ever have voted for. - that doesn't sound grammatical but you know what I mean.

80 posted on 12/27/2012 6:04:24 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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