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To: wintertime; sitetest; metmom; Fletcher J; Gabz; SoftballMominVA
Before we moved, in our other state, we were members of congregation that had many lower class members. It was appalling how many “push-outs” into homeschooling there were in our congregation. These kids were not being homeschooled. They just weren't wanted in their government indoctrination camps and it was the **principals** and counselors in these indoctrination camps who encouraged the parents to remove their kids.

This failure of logic demands a response. Kids are removed from schools for exactly 3 reasons in order:

1) They pose a serious threat of danger to other students.

2)They pose a danger to themselves through the inappropriate use of school equipment to themselves.

3) They pose a thread of danger to members of the faculty or staff.

Students are always placed in alternative placements before referral to the disciplinary committee for expulsion.

Now if any of these students that wintertime knows so well from her congregation had went to school and committed a heinous act that would be perfect fodder for her to notify Metmom with ARTH ping.

Must be nice to be able to be right no matter the outcome.

30 posted on 12/28/2012 6:21:52 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: verga

I respectfully request that you not ping me or send private mail to me. Please feel free to comment as you like, even using my name, but, please, no contact.

Politely and respectfully,

wintertime


31 posted on 12/28/2012 6:26:45 AM PST by wintertime
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To: verga

This “article” is an opinion piece, not news and belongs in personal/bloggers not in the news section and until it gets moved to the appropriate space should just be ignored.


33 posted on 12/28/2012 6:42:45 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: verga
Dear verga,

“This failure of logic demands a response.”

It's not a failure of logic. It may be inaccurate, but it's not a failure of logic.

However...

“Kids are removed from schools for exactly 3 reasons in order:”

Maybe in your parallel universe.

Some years back, we saw a group of kids enter our own loose homeschooling community who, it turns out, were dumped by the local public schools. Strongly encouraged by the administrations of their public schools to leave the public school system for homeschooling..


sitetest

35 posted on 12/28/2012 6:45:55 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: verga; wintertime; sitetest; metmom; Fletcher J; Gabz

While I will freely admit I do not know the details of every school situation in all 50 states, several things about this statement do not stand up to basic logic.

Schools DO NOT ask children to be removed - this represents a loss in funding. Every school system I have ever been connected with has an alternative environment for students that do not fit in the normal environment for a number of reasons.

Secondly, there is no guidance counselor in the country with the power to remove a child - and I’ll go a step further and posit there are no principals either. Why? Back to the funding idea. For a student to be removed from a school system, the school board typically makes that decision and it’s never made lightly. Again...back to $$

Thirdly, this is only one side of the situation. Consider a child that has acted so badly that they are on the verge of being expelled - a dark mark indeed - I could see a parent removing them before the paperwork actually went through. Sort of a “I’m going to get fired, so I’ll quit first.”

Lastly, if a child is SO BAD that the local public school CANNOT handle them, I hope to goodness they are closely supervsed when in a casual setting such as a church. When children act out at school so much that they are on the verge of expulsion, there is a systemic problem with basic child rearing that shows up in multiple environments. If I had a young child of my own for which I was responsible, I would never, ever want them near a child that the parent claimed was ‘pushed out’ of the local public school.

That’s my view based on many years teaching, and teaching children with a variety of discipline problems. Sorry, your story leaks water like a sieve - most likely from the parents of the given children putting the most flattering spin on the story to protect their child. But someone with a higher education, a doctorate in a health field, and who has made frequent claims to be skilled in logic should see through the holes in that story without having them pointed out.


48 posted on 12/28/2012 12:33:41 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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