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To: Sacajaweau

There are five problems here.

One, we’ve gotten some myth that twelve years of high school is right. The odds are....at least half the kids could be wrapped up and in some trade school by age 16.

Two, the vast majority of kids ought to be in a trade school or community college. Across the nation....at best....only seven kids out of a hundred ought to be in a four-year university program.

Three, the colleges will generally admit that thirty percent of all freshman will wrap up a year and never come back. They were not prepared or wanting such a program.

Four, we’ve got degree programs that are worthless.

Five, the minute you borrow more than $40k for college.....you are in dangerous territory for economic failure in life.

It’s a mess that is waiting for a bubble-collapse, if you ask me.


4 posted on 12/27/2012 4:18:00 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

“only seven kids out of a hundred ought to be in a four-year university program.”

based on what


6 posted on 12/27/2012 4:23:53 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: pepsionice

One indicator is the recent grad unemployment rate. By that I mean how many find jobs that require a degree.


7 posted on 12/27/2012 4:27:52 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: pepsionice

The odds are....at least half the kids could be wrapped up and in some trade school by age 16.

You’re right. Most kids still get an 8th grade education. It just takes twelve years to do it.


16 posted on 12/27/2012 4:44:35 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: pepsionice
Across the nation....at best....only seven kids out of a hundred ought to be in a four-year university program.

You know, it once was the case that only the cream of the crop in high schools went on to college. Now, every Joe Blow and his brother are expected to go on to higher education, whether they have the intellect and desire to do so or not.

18 posted on 12/27/2012 5:10:36 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: pepsionice

Our high school college placement guy would openly state that not all kids should go to college.

I’m surprised he kept his job.


36 posted on 12/27/2012 6:28:37 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: pepsionice

now they are worthless because of junk studies.

College used to have the “well rounded” individual in mind.

now we are forbidden the classics, prohibited for critical thinking science, and forced junk studies for worhtless departments.

The joke was basket weaving classes. Now we have a degree for that.

When college studies are real studies it makes sense.


53 posted on 12/27/2012 8:01:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: pepsionice

I like your ideas.
There are an awful lot of good plumbers that retire as millionaires and they earned every penny. We need no more skilled labor and less “Do you want fries with that?” degrees.


71 posted on 12/27/2012 2:10:10 PM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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