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Early Data Show Weak Holiday Sales
Wall Street Journal ^ | December 25, 2012, 5:57 p.m. ET. | SHELLY BANJO

Posted on 12/25/2012 4:22:09 PM PST by Steelers6

The annual holiday shop-a-thon drew to a muted close for many retailers, according to preliminary data, reflecting what some experts said was the slowest growth in spending since the 2008 recession.

For the eight weeks from Oct. 28 through Christmas Eve, retail sales for the holidays rose just 0.7% from the year before, according to MasterCard Inc.'s SpendingPulse unit.

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A man with shopping bags sleeps in Macy's in New York on Monday. . After falling 5.5% in 2008, holiday sales rebounded strongly in 2009 and 2010, and rose about 2% last year, according to the company's data, which are based on sales activity in the MasterCard payments network and estimates for all other forms of payment, including cash and checks. The figures exclude restaurants and sales of automobiles, groceries and gasoline.

This year, "it's a lost season," said Michael McNamara, Spending Pulse's vice president of research and analysis. "Sales and volume are about the same as last year, but the growth was marginal."

He and other analysts said a steep sales decline in the mid-Atlantic states that were walloped by superstorm Sandy dragged down the overall tally.

Retail consulting firm Customer Growth Partners said 2012 looks like the worst holiday-shopping season since 2009. Sales rose roughly 2.8%, after a 5.8% jump in 2011, according to its president, Craig Johnson.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bad; christmas; obamanation; obamanomics; obamasfault; season; shopping
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To: FrogMom

Drove past Walmart yesterday and there were hardly any cars in the parking lot. No one was at Walgreens. I doubt the true numbers show an increase in sales but will we ever be told the truth.


101 posted on 12/25/2012 7:00:21 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
That is my point. At this point, almost everything, in almost every store is made in China.

Your point is ridiculous. Person consumption expenditures last year were about $10.7 trillion. Total imports from China were less than $400 billion. Less than 4% of personal consumption.

4% is much, much less than "almost everything".

102 posted on 12/25/2012 7:02:06 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Steelers6

Customer Growth Partners said 2012 looks like the worst holiday-shopping season since 2009

Today is Christmas and I’ve yet to receive the Fed’s official guide for Holiday purchases. Without a list of the mandated stores and purchase amounts it’s impossible to shop and comply with federal shopping regulations.

Also does anyone know when the free phones are to be delivered. I haven’t received one yet.


103 posted on 12/25/2012 7:07:32 PM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: KC_Lion

Wow. Works of art.


104 posted on 12/25/2012 7:07:32 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Ditto here.

We carry VERY little to no credit card debt in our household. We have them, but almost never use them. If we MUST use a CC for something, we just have a debit/credit card that’s linked to our checking.


105 posted on 12/25/2012 7:08:21 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KC_Lion

That is some stunning walnut.


106 posted on 12/25/2012 7:08:27 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: ez

I bet the availability hasn’t been updated lately. There are 0 AR’s in the local gun shops here. They all sold out in a couple of days after the Newtown shooting. No mags either.


107 posted on 12/25/2012 7:09:34 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: ducttape45; SueRae

My wife joined a local Facebook group called “Matters of the Heart”. People post all kinds of things. She got toys and clothes for the g-kids. Items people are giving away for free instead of taking it to one of the thrift places or throwing it away.


108 posted on 12/25/2012 7:11:32 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Steelers6

Weak holiday sales, gasoline ~$4.00, unemployment 8%, real one twice as much, taxes going up, Obamacare kills, and still they all voted for Obammunist! Go figure!


109 posted on 12/25/2012 7:12:36 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

I LOVE sweet potato pie, it will make you throw rocks at pumpkin pie (which I never really cared for.)

My first taste of of it was 1981... A dear, sweet black lady I used to work with brought one in to work. I’ve worked over the years to come up with a really good one, with a coconut-graham cracker crust.


110 posted on 12/25/2012 7:13:18 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Steelers6

Just another day.


111 posted on 12/25/2012 7:13:51 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: Osage Orange
Most of the people I know cut back on their Xmas spending this year. Obamanomics saps so much from people's disposable income there's not much left for gift buying. Just buying the food for Xmas dinner cost an arm and a leg. Buying the everyday necessities eats up a bigger piece of the pie then it use to.
112 posted on 12/25/2012 7:23:06 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: bigheadfred

Thanks for that tip!


113 posted on 12/25/2012 7:24:20 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: bigheadfred

Thanks for that tip!


114 posted on 12/25/2012 7:24:46 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Steelers6

I said several years ago that as Black Friday becomes more and more of an “official” Christmas shopping event that more and more people would do all their shopping then. It means we would see bigger and bigger numbers for Black Friday weekend while total Christmas spending would be down, assuming the economy is contracting.

BTW, this was the third year our family bought presents only for children.


115 posted on 12/25/2012 7:26:40 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: nevermorelenore

We were not going to buy much in gifts but in the l last two weeks we went went shopping. We bought the big item each member of the family had on their list but avoided the impulsive stocking stuffer stuff.

Nothing on credit.

I made a larger than normal deposit in the little red Salvation Army pot this year.


116 posted on 12/25/2012 7:45:56 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: freedumb2003

The cost of labor is not what drives business overseas. That is a big fallacy. Exception is items like shoes, garments that are labor intensive, Regs, insurances, G&A is the savings. Also less capital intensive to buy from a mfgr than commit to equipment. Unions don’t play the role in exporting jobs that you think they do.


117 posted on 12/25/2012 7:51:28 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Steelers6

Kids got some used electronics from Gamestop and Craigslist and some small toys.

My wife and I pulled an extra Christmas Angel off of the table at church and gave each other that.

Cashing in EE savings bonds and buying stuff for the farm before the hyper-inflation hits.


118 posted on 12/25/2012 7:56:41 PM PST by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Utah Binger

I hope you saved money while you could and that business gets better for you and all of us. : (


119 posted on 12/25/2012 8:04:10 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: All

We bought cases of food for each family member.
Son got case of wolf brand chili, grandson got refried beans, etc. At least now, they have a beginning of storage. Lots of ammo changed hands around the family circle. Biggest item of all was...food. No one complained.


120 posted on 12/25/2012 8:24:02 PM PST by betsyross60
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