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I Told You So! Of Course Washington will Steal Your Retirement Benefits
The Daily Bell ^ | 12-6-2012 | Ron Holland

Posted on 12/22/2012 6:21:04 AM PST by Renfield

Today the twin fake memes of a "Fiscal Cliff" and "Austerity" are combining to create a contrived excuse to tax and steal far more of your wealth and income, including your retirement benefits. The press is filled with articles and editorials like one recently at CNBC entitled "Amid Tax Talks, a cry of 'Save My 401(k)'."

Many retirement, offshore and political experts including Jeff Berwick, Larry Grossman and others are now warning how government revenue needs and austerity measures by the Obama Administration today threaten the private retirement system and benefits of millions of successful Americans. Back on January 28, 2010 I wrote a report entitled "The Coming Obama Retirement Trap Has Started," published at LewRockwell.com, republished in its entirety below, for your review.....

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybell.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 401k; confiscation; investments; ira; retirement; stealing401k; stealingiras
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2008 Candidate Barack Obama told us on the campaign trail: " The problem is, that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents, # 43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome so that now we have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back, $30,000 for every man woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic."

REALITY CHECK Obama presided over the biggest political heist in US history. The Obamanations (insiders and politicians) sucked up trillions under the guise of inheriting the "Bush financial crisis."

THIS MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD Obama COS Rahm Emanuel "suddenly" discovered he wanted to be Chicago's mayor---the little turn went before the mics and announced his campaign "raised $10 million in just a few weeks." Rahm also controlled the US Treasury as COS.

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In a fair accounting, Pres Obama is responsible (along with the then-Dem Congress) for the $1.3 trillion in deficit spending in 2010 and the estimated $1.6 trillion in 2011. Obama should not get credit for the $149B in TARP (Troubled Asset Relief Program) repayments made in 2010 and 2011 to cover most of the $154B in bank loans that remained unpaid at the end of the 2009 fiscal year—--loans that count against Pres Bush’s 2009 deficit tally.

Treasury says all but $5B of the TARP bank l/oans have been repaid. The portion of repayments for loans issued in 2009 should be deducted from Bush’s deficit tally, not credited to Obama as deficit savings. There is some astounding number crunching here, and a chart of a modern day president’s “average annual deficit spending” ........a frightening conclusion of what happens if Obama has an 8- year term.


41 posted on 12/22/2012 2:01:15 PM PST by Liz
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The Stimulus Bombshell
MyGovCost.org | 1/24/12 | Craig Eyermann
FR Posted Jan 31, 2012 by GSWarrior

Stunning.

That’s really the only word we can use to describe the release of a “sensitive and confidential” 57 page memo, written by then soon-to-be US Treasury Secy Larry Summers in December 2008, about what became President Obama’s signature economic program in the first year of his presidency: the “stimulus package”.

James Pethokoukis has summarized some of the most significant aspects of the memo, which we’ve excerpted below, and which reveals the Obama administration’s thinking behind what became an over 821 billion dollar boondoggle. The bold text represents Pethokoukis’ summary of that thinking, which is directly followed by a supporting quotation from Larry Summers’ memo:

1. The stimulus was about implementing the Obama agenda. The short-run economic imperative was to identify as many campaign promises or high priority items that would spend out quickly and be inherently temporary.... The stimulus package is a key tool for advancing clean energy goals and fulfilling a number of campaign commitments.

2. Team Obama knows these deficits are dangerous (although it/ has offered no long-term plan to deal with them). Closing the gap between what the campaign proposed and the estimates of the campaign offsets would require scaling back proposals by about $100 billion annually or adding new offsets totaling the same. Even this, however, would leave an average deficit over the next decade that would be worse than any post-World War II decade. This would be entirely unsustainable and could cause serious economic problems in the both the short run and the long run.

3. Obamanomics was pricier than advertised. Your campaign proposals add about $100 billion per year to the deficit largely because rescoring indicates that some of your revenue raisers do not raise as much as the campaign assumed and some of your proposals cost more than the campaign assumed.... Treasury estimates that repealing the tax cuts above $250,000 would raise about $40 billion less than the campaign assumed....The health plan is about $10 billion more costly than the campaign estimated and the health savings are about $25 billion lower than the campaign estimated.

4. Even Washington can only spend so much money so fast. Constructing a package of this size, or even in the $500 billion range, is a major challenge. While the most effective stimulus is government investment, it is difficult to identify feasible spending projects on the scale that is needed to stabilize the macroeconomy. Moreover, there is a tension between the need to spend the money quickly and the desire to spend the money wisely. To get the package to the requisite size, and also to address other problems, we recommend combining it with substantial state fiscal relief and tax cuts for individuals and businesses.

5. Liberals can complain about the stimulus having too many tax cuts, but even Team Obama thought more spending was unrealistic.

As noted above, it is not possible to spend out much more than $225 billion in the next two years with high-priority investments and protections for the most vulnerable. This total, however, falls well short of what economists believe is needed for the economy, both in total and especially in 2009. As a result, to achieve our macroeconomic objectives—minimally the 2.5 million job goal—will require other sources of stimulus including state fiscal relief, tax cuts for individuals, or tax cuts for businesses.

6. Team Obama thought a stimulus plan of more than $1 trillion would spook financial markets and send interest rates climbing. To accomplish a more significant reduction in the output gap would require stimulus of well over $1 trillion based on purely mechanical assumptions—which would likely not accomplish the goal because of the impact it would have on markets.

42 posted on 12/22/2012 2:02:15 PM PST by Liz
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To: PLMerite

I’m a leader.

Been one since I was a kid.

If kin and friends show up, I know how to show them how to contribute.

Lord knows I’ll need help, and they’ll follow.


43 posted on 12/22/2012 2:11:59 PM PST by onona (Poke salad ain't all that bad.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I said I’m done with the two party thing...you added the rest.

I can tell ya though, doing what we are currently doing really amounts to insanity.

If the republican party wants independent conservative support...go back to conservative constitutional principals.


44 posted on 12/22/2012 4:21:24 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: onona

That approach works with very small numbers and is dependent upon them being cooperative and appreciative. It’s large numbers and bad guys that will do you in.


45 posted on 12/22/2012 5:56:03 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: csmusaret
It is entirely possible to profit from insider knowledge without taking any taxpayer dollars.

You are naive.

How do you think congresscritters get that insider knowledge?

By creating rules that make companies hire lobbyists, come before them, make donations and beg for exemptions, assistance, tax breaks, subsidies, etc.

Then, when the congresscritter is out of office, they go to work for the lobbying firms they helped create with the rules they put in place.

Taking money from me to give to a man who has not looked for a job in three years does not enrich the politician, but it helps him get re-elected so he can continue to enrich himself in other ways.

Really?!

I guess that's why McDonald's, Burger King and other large chains are sending millions to politicians so they will allow Food Stamp cards to be used in their restaurants.

No, no enrichment going on there.

I guess that is why the congresscritter's friends get awarded contracts to re-train the unemployed, the congresscritter's friends get subsidies to hire the unemployed and the congresscritter's family gets jobs working for the companies that benefit from gov't programs.

The current system is broken and is all about getting re-elected while enriching friends and family.

It is designed so that even the most pure man gets corrupted or is driven out.

46 posted on 12/23/2012 3:18:44 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Nothing you have said even addresses , much less refutes, my original point which I will repeat here for your benefit as you apparently didn’t get it the first time....”Enriching themselves is not the pressing problem; bankrupting the nation is.” (Emphasis on pressing)

I don’t think for a minute that there is no corruption in government. I realize that members of Congress are not immune from the personal failings that afflict the rest of human kind. I am aware that many go to Washington with very little wealth and become multi-millionaires on a salary of $174,000 a year. I do think, however that all that pales in comparison to the devasting financial hole congress has put this nation in. Year after year of Trillion dollar plus deficits are a much bigger problem for all of us than some Senator hiring his daughter to fill a staff position or some Representative retiring after 10 years and taking a $ 3 Million campaign chest home with him.


47 posted on 12/23/2012 5:41:30 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: csmusaret
”Enriching themselves is not the pressing problem; bankrupting the nation is.” (Emphasis on pressing)

The nation is bankrupt because the men and women who go to Washington keep enriching themselves, their families and friends.

Every dollar spent by Washington is not due to their generosity or need, but due to their self-interest.

Even the most conservative members bring pork back home in the form of contracts, subsidies and grants.

If the program was created in the past, it is looted, layered and manipulated to benefit themselves and their circle.

If you think another party will be able to find 218 pure men for the House and 60 for the Senate, you are dreaming.

There is no turning back. Courts have ruled all this spending is not just constitutional, but required!

48 posted on 12/23/2012 6:17:35 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Everything you mention is nickels and dimes compared to the dollars we spend on Medicare, Medicaid, DOD, SS disability, and 83 some odd welfare programs. They don’t get fixed because politicians don’t want to risk their re election not because they are too busy lining their pockets. A third, fourth or fith party would give them new competition for their cushy jobs, forcing them to do what is right. When their best chance of re election is to do what is right for the country instead of what is right for their party or themselves change will happen. The staus quo ensures the problems you point out will prevail. Giving voters more than two choices is a step in the right direction. Railing on and on about corruption in politics might make you feel better, but it sure as hell doesn’t fix any problems. I say more political parties will help. We have heard your complaints, let’s hear your plan. If you don’t have one don’t bother me with any more of your pissin n moanin.


49 posted on 12/23/2012 6:47:40 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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